Got bison tag in alberta. Now need jacketed 400 gr .458 bullets. Where to find?

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As the title says I won the lottery and got myself a bison tag in alberta. I really want to shoot the bison with my bnib 1886 browning in 45-70 I have access to lots of 300 gr bulletss and some 350gr but I would really like to get some 400 gr ones. I would like to have the Speer ones if I could but am willing to look at other brands also.

Thanks guys and gals.

FYI I live north of grande prairie.
 
Tradeex has 400 gr Woodleighs in stock. I haven't fired a Woodleigh that big yet, but the smaller sizes seem like a pretty solid product.
 
I just went down came back up from grande prairie today, grabbed a box of 450 grain solid copper, 500 grain fmjrn from Barton's, Wholesale sports might have had some 405 grain, but I wasn't looking too closely there. Factory remington core-lokt 405gr up in Manning is going for about $60 per box.
 
I just loaded up some 405 gr Woodleigh's last night and fired them over the crony with 51.5gr of IMR 3031 with a ww case and ww primers I was getting 1997 FPS And I shot this out of my 1885 Winchester high wall with open sight I could hit a 4" steal plate @ 100 meters. boy does it kick. I order the bullets from trade X with shipping and taxes it was $80.00for 50 of them.
 
As the title says I won the lottery and got myself a bison tag in alberta. I really want to shoot the bison with my bnib 1886 browning in 45-70 I have access to lots of 300 gr bulletss and some 350gr but I would really like to get some 400 gr ones. I would like to have the Speer ones if I could but am willing to look at other brands also.

Thanks guys and gals.

FYI I live north of grande prairie.

I'll see you up there! I might take the .264 win mag...one behind the ear and lights out.
 
Thanks all for your replies so far. I was thinking of using a 500 gr but I don't think it will cycle through my action. I was at Barton's but the 500 gr bullets were more pointed than round nose so I don't want to use them through a tube mag. Also I'm not sure if my rifle will stabilize a 500 gr bullet. It is a 1in20 twist. I wouldn't mind trying some 500 gr but the ones at Barton's were pointed nose not round nose and I wasn't going to spend $100 for 25 bullets that might not fit. Can anyone say much about how the woodleigh bullets perform on an animal.
 
The 500grain ones I picked up were Hornady Jacketed round/flat nose h ttp://www.hornady.com/store/45-Cal-.458-500-gr-DGS/. When assembled, they are definitely too long to load into the mag, they do chamber when dropped in an open action however. They probably wouldn't be appropriate for hunting, since they're fmj. Darn good squirrel round though.
 
Not sure if the new 1886's are as long as the old originals, if not they may not feed some of the 400 gr or larger jacketed bullets only seated to the canelure, through the action.

The old Win. Mod 86's and Marlin 1895's were long enough to feed 45-90 so no problem with them but the new Marlin 1895CB is shorter and won't feed some of the heavier bullets. Still about 1/8 of an inch of bullet in the mag tube when the cartridge is at the back of its travel space on the elevator.
 
Try the 450 hard cast from the bullet barn, they are about 25 brinnel accurate,and can be driven fast. They also cycle well through my two Marlin 1895's
 
I wonder what they would do on animals at 2650 fps? That's my plinking bullet for the .458 Win mag, mostly because they are the cheapest thing around.

Well if you mean the 350 gr hornadys, I shot a moose last fall with one out of my 1886. I don't know the velocity as I never measured it but I was using 51gr of h4895 out of a 22" barrel. The bullet went through both front leg bones. No the shoulder the leg bone. It was at 115 yards and I never recovered the bullet. It was dead before it hit the ground.
 
I'm sure they're fine at 45/70 speed, and at the rate they slow down they would be down to that in short order. We've shot through moose with 300 gr .45 cal SST muzzleloader bullets.
 
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