Got my short list for first pistol... Input/opinions??
- Thread starter GearaDoga
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Hedge your bets Glock 17 and CZ Shadow...
long time glock guy but I purchased a m&p 9mm and love it. I shot 150 rounds the other day then finished off with a Glock 22. It was like I was holding a brick in my hand compared to the feel of the sig. great gun, very accurate with it
http://www.ipsc.org/rules/proddiv.php
M&P Pro is listed there clear as day. the 5 lb rule is for the DA first shot and can't be applied to striker fire systems that may wear down a few points.
guys that got called out were more than likely using the APEX comp kit, which IS prohib. if they weren't they should've put up the 100 bucks for protest/arbitration - stripping the damn thing and proving stock parts isn't very hard. if they have an issue with the trigger settling a few points below 5 after break-in, it wouldn't be on the allowed list, simple as that - anything else is some fatass RO power-tripping (as they sometimes do).
all that being said, i've seen a fair share of shadows run triggers lighter than 3 lbs in that division so go figure.
Actually there are parts for the M&P that increase the trigger weight - there's the Mass. trigger bar and the Police 'heavy' trigger bar (the Mass bar is 8lb with the heavy return spring, the PH is 10 in a stock M&P) given the right combination of parts and springs, I'd bet you could put together an M&P trigger right at 5 lbs. with or without using an Apex sear. Most folks still haven't figured out how easy the M&P is to work on, or how tunable/improvable it is.
I have the large mitt issue as well and found the M&P to be the best fit of any handgun I've tried so far. See if they'll let you try the large size back strap in the store. I like it better than the Glock style ones because it adds a bit of a palm swell as well, I find it gives me better control at the range. The range kit is a great value as well, I have the 40 cal version.
Best of luck with a tough choice, the other guns are good picks too!
Best of luck with a tough choice, the other guns are good picks too!
Nop, stock gun
Parts are for the "non-pro", at least last year. One of the guy called S&W directly regarding this.
i`m gona go with. try them out. ask the shop if you can hold them. its not about the gun or the maker. its about whether it feels comfortable for you. it took me weeks and holding many pistols to find what i really liked. research will only take you so far. you need some experience. you should go for a 9mm to start. not to expensive. kick isnt that strong and many of em are very good shooters.
other than that, as i said, go to the shop, ask if you can hold them( they usually will let you) and see if they are comfortable in your hands.
other than that, as i said, go to the shop, ask if you can hold them( they usually will let you) and see if they are comfortable in your hands.
Pistolwhiptricks
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- Mississauga
Yup. It's true. I've heard from numerous fellow IPSC shooter's that used to use the M&P Pro as their production gun. They plainly said don't bother because eventually the trigger pull drops below 5lbs there for taking you out of production division.
Then he got bad info, the trigger bar, return spring, sear spring, firing pin block, block spring are all identical from FS to Pro - what they were saying was they won't sell them to you - find a US LE distributor who will.
I don't have one, nor want one. You can argue until the end of times but the fact is the trigger pull will go under 5# at some point. You can think S&W USA do not know about the guns they make and that you know better... I don't know, but the fact is the same, if the guy wants to shoot IPSC, he will be better serve with another gun than an M&P Pro because of all the hassle that comes with the trigger pull issue.
that is really a shame, i don't shoot production but was thinking of picking up a pro to mix things up a little. i might still do it just to mess with the kind of people that might have a problem with a stock gun clearly listed on the division approved list
You might want to first decide what you want. You have in your list, 2 apples & an orange (2 metal & 1 plastic). I prefer heavy metal guns over light plastic so I would nix the M&P from the list and add the Sig P226. Once you have that list, the order based on my personal experience & preference would be:
1) Sig P226
2) Beretta 92FS
3) CZ 75
These are all excellent options and if price comes into play, the CZ is an awesome choice.
1) Sig P226
2) Beretta 92FS
3) CZ 75
These are all excellent options and if price comes into play, the CZ is an awesome choice.
