Grizzly Bear Defence rifle

Only saw part of the reply’s… 45-70 All the way!

Got my new Ruger/Marlin SBL Reserved can’t wait!

Had a JM SBL, a Remlin SBL and a remlin Dark all in 45-70 I trust the round with my life… offensive rounds I use Buffalo Bore and if I’m hunting I use Hormady Leverrevelotion.
 
Foxer2373 said:
Only saw part of the reply’s… 45-70 All the way!

Got my new Ruger/Marlin SBL Reserved can’t wait!

Had a JM SBL, a Remlin SBL and a remlin Dark all in 45-70 I trust the round with my life… offensive rounds I use Buffalo Bore and if I’m hunting I use Hormady Leverrevelotion.
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Nice!

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/2225906-All-New-Ruger-Manufactured-Marlin-1895-SBL-45-70-Coming-Soon!!

I'm hoping to get an opportunity to buy a new RM SBL, not sure how I feel about the sights though. In late December 2021, Ruger said they have 1000 units ready to ship with more coming down the pipe. My guess is that Ruger will implement strict quality control on that first batch to protect their brand and reputation. Might become a collectors item.

P.S. How does one go about reserving an RM SBL?
 
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nulll said:
Nice!
I'm hoping to get an opportunity to buy a new RM SBL, not sure how I feel about the sights though. In late December 2021, Ruger said they have 1000 units ready to ship with more coming down the pipe. My guess is that Ruger will implement strict quality control on that first batch to protect their brand and reputation. Might be a collectors item.

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Plan on mounting the Acro C2 with high see through mount… should give me the red dot with the back up option of mounted sights… but could be months before Canada sees any,,, we shall see.
 
nulll said:
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I'm hoping to get an opportunity to buy a new RM SBL, not sure how I feel about the sights though. ...
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Most off-the-shelf levergun sights are not great, IMO. If you haven't tried a well-put-together ghost ring setup, you really should. They are much, much faster to acquire for most people. And the accuracy you can get with them is surprising. For a hard-use / gross-weather bush rifle, they're my first choice. Even over a tough red dot, which can always get snow or other crap over the window. Topic for another thread!

I wound up exclusively using a ghost ring setup on my carbine in 3-Gun. I was very skeptical at first, but thought I should try it since it came on the gun. After a very short learning curve, I had a lot of confidence with that style of sights.
 
pounder said:
This is by no means a shot at anyone doing groups at 100 yrds. But at defense range what can you do at 15 yrds and in ? This is where practice counts.
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It is, any time I pattern a shotgun initially it’s at 15 & 25y with any load I’ll be using then I push out to 35-40y with shot, 50 for slugs finally. It covers all my hunting distances for small game and I know exactly what type of pattern shot has at close range or slugs out to 50y, if I do have a bear around and it gets within these ranges I’m not thinking about what my shotgun can do. I’m paying attention to what my target is doing, this is no different than anything I hunt though.

Spending time getting to know your gear is key, it’s one less thing to worry about.
 
time4t said:
An acquaintance of mine killed a huge 7 foot black bear boar with his bow 3 years ago. While skinning it out, he found 2- 000 copper plated buckshot scarred over -in its cheek and above one eye.
I am amused by how many people who go on about bear defence and safety management when they do not have a clue. Some here actually have decent wilderness and bear encounter experience; understand generally how it works and have passed the real world exam.
When it gets real; situational awareness, using avoidance tactics if possible, and competent use of the firearm in hand is what matters, and its often over in 3-4 seconds.
Take some bear awareness and defensive drill training like gary sheltons stuff, and be open to learning from others.
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the last 3 black bears i skinned in the yukon had shot gun pellets and 22lr in the bodies ...
 
I used to skin P bears for DNR and often found pellets under their hide some festering and infected. These are the bears that are hurting and just itching to tell someone about it. If you are going to put a hole in it kill it.
 
pounder said:
I used to skin P bears for DNR and often found pellets under their hide some festering and infected. These are the bears that are hurting and just itching to tell someone about it. If you are going to put a hole in it kill it.
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While this statement is agreeable to most, and of course, ideal, one would think that "go away" would be the primary thought in the midst of an actual attack?
While it seems to be fine to spew rhetoric from the couch (this is not directed at you, pounder) with regards to what, could, and may work, once in an actual situation, and the position in the food chain is ultimately revealed, the difference between good, and good enough matters none, as long at the subject can be mitigated in any way, and in any how?
As said many times previously, these threads would be awful short if they were left to people with actual experience.
So, there is a lot more to the answer, that just that.
R.
 
The majority of the bears with pellets in them were shot in the a$$ to make it go away faster. If the bear is already moving away then mission accomplished. There is also the problem of shooting way to many cracker shells ( bear bangers ) at bears that are already retreating as they do get used to them at at some point ignore them. Rubber bullets do work as bears do not like to be touched. We have also found that live fire into the ground is not effective as some bears will actually attack where the bullet strikes. There is also the chance of a ricochet that could strike the bear or a person. I am only speaking of my experience with polar bears over the past 40 plus years.
 
pounder said:
The majority of the bears with pellets in them were shot in the a$$ to make it go away faster. If the bear is already moving away then mission accomplished. There is also the problem of shooting way to many cracker shells ( bear bangers ) at bears that are already retreating as they do get used to them at at some point ignore them. Rubber bullets do work as bears do not like to be touched. We have also found that live fire into the ground is not effective as some bears will actually attack where the bullet strikes. There is also the chance of a ricochet that could strike the bear or a person. I am only speaking of my experience with polar bears over the past 40 plus years.
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I would agree and my experience is only with brown and black ones...
 
i have a 45-70 trapper only cuzz its so handy...they are not FAST stoppers....a 458 lott with a 350gr hornady was the best medicine according to alaska kodiak guide lore...i like a 375 ruger with 350 gr X bullets...or 458 win mag with the a/n hornady bullet...then again I know a local who has shot several with a 270 with factory loads so to each their own...12 gauge shotguns only with non hollowpoint slugs pls
 
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