Grizzly Rifle

[Slamfire]

340 Weatherby Magnum, 250gr Nosler Partition factory loads!

A rather unfortunate chain of events that resulted in the hunter getting mauled and shot. From Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance (Stephen Herrero) -

https://books.google.ca/books?id=3UAJLwn8wkkC&pg=PT82&lpg=PT82&dq=karluk+island+grizzly+creig+sharp+larry+kaniut&source=bl&ots=0MGCsh_qTO&sig=TtWkajgsWOlQ3C9QLzB-dct5h_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2w7WQz6zTAhUE1mMKHTi_B_EQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=karluk%20island%20grizzly%20creig%20sharp%20larry%20kaniut&f=false

 

[Trimmer 905]

Rather unnerving!

I've had this kind of thing happen with an aggressive Bull Moose that kept getting back up and approaching until I brained it. Reflecting upon that experience it was time to go buy a more powerful rifle which was my 416 Rem. Mag. Sako AV Hunter.

That's a very sweet piece of kit.

340 Weatherby Magnum, 250gr Nosler Partition factory loads!

A rather unfortunate chain of events that resulted in the hunter getting mauled and shot. From Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance (Stephen Herrero) -

https://books.google.ca/books?id=3UAJLwn8wkkC&pg=PT82&lpg=PT82&dq=karluk+island+grizzly+creig+sharp+larry+kaniut&source=bl&ots=0MGCsh_qTO&sig=TtWkajgsWOlQ3C9QLzB-dct5h_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2w7WQz6zTAhUE1mMKHTi_B_EQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=karluk%20island%20grizzly%20creig%20sharp%20larry%20kaniut&f=false

How was it that the 340Weatherby Mag (250gr.) at that range not drop the Bear in it's tracks? Too close with the wrong bullet,maybe?

 

[GUB]

That's a very sweet piece of kit.



How was it that the 340Weatherby Mag (250gr.) at that range not drop the Bear in it's tracks? Too close with the wrong bullet,maybe?

Because they can be hard to kill and can absorb a lot of rounds.
If you don't believe that? Don't go grizzly hunting..

 

[Slamfire]

That's a very sweet piece of kit

Thanks! I got it converted from 416 Rem. Mag. to 458 Lott, and with the barrel converted my 375 H&H Mag. Zastava Fullstock Carbine to a 416 Rem. Mag.

I like to see game pile up instantly when shot and I generally get that with these rifles. Either of these should flatten 'Ol Ephraim.

 

[leveractionjunkie]

I hope we get to see pics of successful grizzly hunts this year after all these g-bear rifle threads

 

[Trimmer 905]

Because they can be hard to kill and can absorb a lot of rounds.
If you don't believe that? Don't go grizzly hunting..

Well,I may be a tad crazy,but,I'm not stupid. I'm thinking the bullet was too light and the wrong type,not delivering enough initial shock deep enough into the boiler room.

 

[medvedqc]

most of the time this is not the bullet nor the caliber to blame but more the shooter and where the bullet hit ....

 

[Mighty Peace]

Seen a Sako m85 Brown Bear with MacMillan Edge stock in a 338WM for sale in BC (Hunting BC site). Might posted on CGN as well. Be a good choice to consider.

 

[elker]

340 Weatherby Magnum, 250gr Nosler Partition factory loads!

A rather unfortunate chain of events that resulted in the hunter getting mauled and shot. From Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance (Stephen Herrero) -

https://books.google.ca/books?id=3UAJLwn8wkkC&pg=PT82&lpg=PT82&dq=karluk+island+grizzly+creig+sharp+larry+kaniut&source=bl&ots=0MGCsh_qTO&sig=TtWkajgsWOlQ3C9QLzB-dct5h_g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi2w7WQz6zTAhUE1mMKHTi_B_EQ6AEIJTAA#v=onepage&q=karluk%20island%20grizzly%20creig%20sharp%20larry%20kaniut&f=false

So it is a proof that the puss feed fails in the most crucial moment.

 

[Slamfire]

Seems to be a performance deficit of some kind with the super 338.

Less risk if he had used something more substantial (and mechanically reliable)? A round that produces a massive wound channel and transmits debilitating shock to increase the chances of a quick demise of his quarry?

 

[GunMunKey]

375 Sako Kodiak is the rifle I dream about getting when I pull my tag.

 

[GUB]

Seems to be a performance deficit of some kind with the super 338.

Less risk if he had used something more substantial (and mechanically reliable)? A round that produces a massive wound channel and transmits debilitating shock to increase the chances of a quick demise of his quarry?

Picked up a spent .416 Rem Mag case at the range yesterday.The diameter of the .416 is huge?? I can drop a .375 into it down to the shoulder. Didn't realize how much bigger, wider the .416 is..

 

[Slamfire]

The 416 has 10% more diameter or about 25% more cross-sectional area.

 

[medvedqc]

but the sectional density of a .416 is not at his best with 350 grains ....

 

[bearhunter79]

Ya I think with the 416 and a 350grain pill you get an sd of .284 and about .270 sd is the minimum you would want on that size of animal

 

[BigUglyMan]

but the sectional density of a .416 is not at his best with 350 grains ....

Probably less critical since we, as a species, invented super-premium bullets. Still, I like more SD than less.

 

[medvedqc]

Probably less critical since we, as a species, invented super-premium bullets. Still, I like more SD than less.

you are right: you need to choose wiseley your bullet.

 

[Slamfire]

Interesting article in the 12th edition of Handloader's Digest, The 416 Remington Magnum: Load it for Bear. The authors (Ray Ordorica & Andy Runyan) believe 416 (or 411) 300gr bullets are better stoppers (inspite of the lower SD value).

They tell of a client who had wounded a big Bear with 3 shots from his 300 Win. Mag. They located the wounded Bear whereupon it was dispatched rather quickly with a single 300gr bullet impacting at 2700 fps -

More shock with higher impact speeds. I find the 416 caliber 300gr X and 350gr X or Mag-Tip bullets to be excellent Elk and Moose stompers. Haven't tried 400gr bullets yet.

 

[leveractionjunkie]

Anybody kill any bears yet?

Springs taking too long to get here

 

[carverk]

Anybody kill any bears yet?

Springs taking too long to get here

Seen a small black bear yesterday