Grouping, what to espect ?

out to 10 yards slow fire freestyle 10 shots should make one hole, or very very nearly one hole (maybe one slightly off). outside those distances slow fire im not sure.

funny, I was planning on going to the range tomorrow and just shooting 20 yard groups all day as I havent done any slow fire in a while and want to practice calling my shots
 
SoBored said:
Last time I was at the range with my wife I took the ol' Ruger #1 Target with some crappy Remington Thunderbolt ammo I needed to burn off. She was all over the place with it at 20 yards and I told her not to worry, that ammo sucks and is inaccurate. I then did a 5 shot 1.5" group with my strong hand, not slow not fast. I was really shocked and impressed and I'm going to have to try some RMS hobbies in that gun in the near future. I really wish I saved that target but we where in a hurry to get home at the time.
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I've also noticed a huge difference when I'm shooting my Ruger Mk.1 as well: I can put 10/10 onto an 8X10" piece of paper at 50m, but with the CZ Shadow, it's more like 8/10 on a 2 foot piece of paper at that distance. I'm still working on that...
 
From what I've seen of tests in ransom rests, mechanically, most service-style handguns should be capable of at least a 2-3" grouping at 25m, and better with accurate loads- many being capable of groupings below 1.5".

For service handguns, if you can make a 5" group at 25m off-hand, on your own time, I'd call that really good. 10" at 25m is what I'd call acceptable, being minute-of-paper-plate. Bigger than that needs to practice more :D.

*I don't really have any frame of reference for dedicated .22lr handguns, or purpose-made target handguns- only centerfire service handguns.
 
Gander, thanks for sharing that on the eye glasses, I'll be turning 52 and use reading glasses and a magnifier for my work, but still use nothing for aperture sights, open sights on my rifles or pistols. I will look into this because I know the right eye-ware returns our old eyes to our teens. Would that 33" work with aperture sight on say a No4 Le Enfield as well?
 
33" is the distance from my eye to my pistol front sight. For rifle I have a different pair with the focus farther out. I want the rifle front sight to be sharp, but no closer.


For handgun you want the lens that makes the front sight sharp, but no closer. If your shirt cuff is also sharp, you are trading off too much fuzzy target. you have to accept some fuzzy target, but not more than is required for a sharp front sight.
 
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