GSG 1911 Experiences, Tips, Tricks, Mods & Parts

Hi: redneckrob (Barry Robinson) here; some 'things I have been told about the GSG(Sig Sauer) 1911 22, Most agree its a pretty good gun for a 22 and for that price, Some fellows have made quite a few modifications to it, and they all seem to be working OK, the gun is a series 80 type, and quite a few of us, are not found of those ( to many moving parts)This is my personal 1st mod. Next, I like many, like a flat MSH, and a mag.well.. 2nd mod. all the talk about the guide rod has prompted me to aquire a solid alluminum one, which I will install if/when the stock one fails, Like many of you, I don't like/use a grip safety. Cocked & locked. So I depend on my thumb saftey, a lot. There are a lot of IPSC shooter doing the same thing. The sights do the job, BUT need to be changed. all of the inside working, need to be polished, very carefully, just so they are all "smooth"!!! The barrel-- DOES NOT LOCK UP like a regular 1911( 45 or other) No link pin & no lock up lugs!! It is locked in place, by a total of 3 pins, and if you put your barrel in the frame and install the 3 pins, the barrel should not move!!! this is its lock up or so I]have been told, by those much smarter than me. the barrel should "float" in the barrel bushing.... do NOT over tighten the screw, that goes thru the frame and barrel, just to the point, that the barrel does not move... assembled with this in mind, I found the gun very accurate, and worked extremely well. ANYTHING I may have passed on, that some find inaccurate, Sorry, just what "I" was told.... Barry
 
Blue Line delivered as promised, impressed with these guys again.

After buying a third mag and running 3 of my dad's mags through my GSG I determined that all the feed problems I was having was with the one mag that will not drop when the slide is locked open on empty. The same mag caused malfunctions in my dad's gun.

So I dropped Blue Line a quick email and they happily resolved my problem, easy people to deal with i have confidence that if I have any issues pop up in the future that they will be resolved professionally and painlessly.

So I agree thumbs up to Blue Line! :cheers:
 
Okay so range trip today shot 100 Winchester HV round nose, 100 mini mags, a 50 pack federal round nose, a 40 pack American Eagle HV, 50 Winchester super speed HP and a few mags of 555 and 333 Winchester bulk.
Other than one stove pipe with the Winchester HV the only feed problems where with the Winchester bulk.

I am finding that it is quite accurate with the tallest sight post at 40 ish feet. Have no problems removing a zombies face at all.

I am contributing some of my success today to a set of duragrips I bought of a fellow nutter on the EE. They have a slightly slimmer profile than the walnut grips which feels better in my slightly smaller than average meat hooks.
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Got my defective magazine replaced thanks blue line! Upon close inspection I found that there is a small pin missing from the rear of the follower and that the follower has slightly more play on the defective magazine. I will get some pictures up soon.

Highly recommend
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Few drops in the slide rails & it runs silky smooth!


Been having great success with winchester super X HV and Remington thunderbolts.
 
Update i am finding that I have the best results with the thunderbolts. I have since installed the GSGpro full length guide rod and spring also switched the curved MSH for a flat one. I made sure to take the guts from the factory MSH and put them into the flat.

Very happy with the guide rod so far & i hope to test the flat MSH out this weekend but for sure i get a way more comfortable grip with the flat. Maybe get some pictures up tomorrow.
 
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My GSG has been modified with the GSGpro full length rod and spring, flat MSH, lighter main spring, polished internals and barrel, and I have a set of Dlask sights to install when ive got the time. The gun has shot flawless with everything Ive fed it since day one. It shoots extremely accurate out to 25 yards.
 
I have a set of Dlask sights to install when ive got the time.
Anyone know if the rear Dlask sight will work with the OEM front sight (one dot)?
The plastic OEM rear is terrible! If you tighten it too much it starts to lift out of the dove-tail. Too loose and it will shift....at least in my experience.
 
reviving an old thread here.
I have a gsg 1911 that I bought from wolverine. I have no problems with wolverine as their sales staff were great and they shipped me everything asap.

Unfoutunaly I think I got a lemon.
I'm horrible with part names so bear with me.
Right out of the box I had a problem as the second round on both my mags wouldn't chamber. I read up on it and heard everyone talking about having to remove the paint from the rails so I started polishing.
Cleaned it up a bit and used white lithium grease on the rails. it made a difference.
next problem is when i was taking it apart i had trouble getting the barrel lug out and couldn't get it back in later. I had to clean up some things to get everything to sit right. The recoil spring retainer (guessing on the name) that is held in by the barrel lug had a machining lip on the spring end that I had to remove. Combine that with the clearance on the slide not being deep enough that it wouldn't depress enough to get the lug to turn into place properly. Minor changes that weren't cosmetic and now they work great but its some filing I shouldn't have had to do.

Now the only thing i want to change so far is the safety. I don't need the ambi safety but the biggest thing is the shape of it. I did my tdsa holster course yesterday and now have a hole in my thumb from the back corner of the safety digging in every time I engaged it before re-holstering. A friend there had a colt 1911 and I liked the feel of that safety. I think someone here put one on theirs and called it a "tactical" safety.

Where is the best place to get parts in canada without breaking the bank? Right now I'm thinking safety, grips and maybe a bigger mag release button. Nothing major.
Any suggestions?
 
I ground down and radiused the left rear of the thumb safety, reblued....looks and feels much better, and no fitting of a new safety.
 
Most of the failed rounds had a stike on the rim though there was a hand full of times where the manually ejected round had no strike I am not sure why... feed problem? Thoughts?

Mine routinely delivers light strikes that don't fire the round. Sometimes the case has a slight print, sometimes not. Even the ejected spent cases do not appear to have been struck very hard. It also frequently fails to feed the next round from the magazine.

Both of these problems suggest to me that the slide may not be moving all the way to the rear on recoil and may not be returning to full battery. This condition is not ammo dependent - I've tried six different kinds of HV ammo (and a couple of SV types just for fun.) No real difference except it functions about 75% of the time on Federal 510 and less with the others. I have also noticed that, with the gun unloaded, after I slingshot the slide it does not completely close. It's possible to manually push it forward another millimetre or two. That is certainly not the case with my centre fire 1911.

Thinking the slide movement may be retarded by friction I polished the rails on the frame and slide where they come into contact with fine steel wool, then carefully cleaned and oiled them. That may have helped a little, but I have yet to get through more than two magazines without some kind of failure. That is unacceptable performance in my book.

My gun has the ZRTS kit (alignment cone, guide rod and plug, recoil spring) and a trigger job. I'm going to put the original spring back in to see if that makes any difference.

The gun is a joy to use when it works - great ergonomics and surprisingly accurate. At this point, though, not really worth the aggravation.
 
Jim, try taking off the zrts stuff and put the factory back on. If the problem persists then you have a different issue. It's possible though that the new cone and bushing are to still to tight and not letting the slide move full forward.
Did you remember to ditch the second screw when you added the zrts stuff ? If you're still using both that could be part of the problem.
 
Also if you changed the MSH you may have a weaker hammer spring then OEM which would cause light strikes. Also a trigger swap could cause the series 80 system to be affected if the trigger isn't fully to the rear.
 
Jim, try taking off the zrts stuff and put the factory back on. If the problem persists then you have a different issue. It's possible though that the new cone and bushing are to still to tight and not letting the slide move full forward.
Did you remember to ditch the second screw when you added the zrts stuff ? If you're still using both that could be part of the problem.

I'm going to just try going back to the factory recoil spring first. Hate the thought of putting the rest of that cheap junk back, though if it comes to that so be it.

I left the barrel adjustment screw in since it came that way (dealer/gunsmith did the mods.) I know ZRTS says you don' t need it, but they don't specifically say not to use it either. But that's another thing to try.

As far as I can tell the cone/bushing fit is good. Does not seem to be binding.

But anyway, thanks for your comments. If anything works I'll post a report.
 
Also if you changed the MSH you may have a weaker hammer spring then OEM which would cause light strikes. Also a trigger swap could cause the series 80 system to be affected if the trigger isn't fully to the rear.

It's the original MSH. The hammer drop seems strong. Not sure what the trigger job entailed, but I presume just polishing/ shaping the sear.

I'm inclined to think that something in the design or manufacturing process is not entirely right. A lot of owners seem to have these issues, even with stock guns. People usually want to blame it on ammo or defective magazines (who wants to admit they paid hundreds of dollars for a lemon.)

My experience with defective guns over the years is that if they don't work right at first they're probably never going to. But I'm not quite ready to write this one off quite yet.
 
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