Gun Registry New Rules

ELKAHOLIC said:
If the registry is over, why are the RCMP still sending my sister in law notices to register her deceased fathers guns or to turn them in to the police. His pal has expired since his passing and they sent notices to renew it, which of course she did not.
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If she is the executor of his will , she doesn't even need a licence and has a reasonable amount of time ( even a couple of years) to sell them to somebody that is licenced .
 
I'm sure the anti-gun CFOs from the provinces and territories will be stepping up to fill any vacuum with a bunch of made up laws in short order and the even more anti-gun RCMP will be reclassifying as many NRs to Rs and Ps as fast as they possibly can. :rolleyes:
 
ELKAHOLIC said:
If the registry is over, why are the RCMP still sending my sister in law notices to register her deceased fathers guns or to turn them in to the police. His pal has expired since his passing and they sent notices to renew it, which of course she did not.
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The Long Gun Registry hasn't been over for all that long - notices to register would have most likely been issued while the law was still in effect. However, if she wants to keep the guns, she still needs a license. As another commented, if she's the executor, she's got some time. If she gets a license, she keeps the (now unregistered) guns.
 
There is a sports store in Athabasca that swiped my PAL when I bought a box of ammo. And the Canadian Tire in Whitecourt wanted to record all my info into a book which was just hanging from a string outside the display case. So I just left.
 
I have never been asked to show my PAL to buy ammo, at most they just ask if I have one, and when I ask if they want to see it, I just get "no, thats okay, as long as you have it on you".
 
ELKAHOLIC said:
If the registry is over, why are the RCMP still sending my sister in law notices to register her deceased fathers guns or to turn them in to the police. His pal has expired since his passing and they sent notices to renew it, which of course she did not.
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Maybe because it just ended On Friday April 6th 2012 at 12:01 Am?

And it is now April 10th 2012.
 
lacesout said:
How do you verify if someone has a valid pal in order to sell them a gun on the EE? Call RCMP and verify?
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I would probably request a scan or fax of the pal. and then verifiy that the shipping address they gave you matches the address of that pal number on hand at CFC.

otherwise if someone had a stolen pal card they could get stuff shipped to there own address.
 
scott said:
I would probably request a scan or fax of the pal. and then verifiy that the shipping address they gave you matches the address of that pal number on hand at CFC.

otherwise if someone had a stolen pal card they could get stuff shipped to there own address.
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OR you could skype the person ,I would never give anyone my pal by scan or fax.no need although anyone could use your info either way.Skype them and that way due dilligence is done ,you can still write down the info you can also see their face matches the card and they have it in their posession.If that isn't good enough you can still call in the # to CFC. Oh yea on skype you can take a snap shot too if you are real anal!
Everyone has access to a computer these days, unless you are selling face to face it's the best and safest way to go for both parties!
Just my opinion! :nest:
 
scott said:
I would probably request a scan or fax of the pal. and then verifiy that the shipping address they gave you matches the address of that pal number on hand at CFC.

otherwise if someone had a stolen pal card they could get stuff shipped to there own address.
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Unless the CFC changes it's privacy rules, they won't verify an address. Went though a transfer not long ago and I asked if such and such address that was provided to me was accurate and I got the " I cannot answer that Sir".
 
lacesout said:
has any info been released by the CFC on what steps must be taken to properly sell a non-restricted rifle person to person?
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The legislation (C-19) now in affect doesn't spell it out, so how can the CFc start putting their own regulations on people?

As said it the committee hearings, all that is required is the seller must be reasonably sure the buyer has a valid PAl. Full stop.

The CFC can lick balls.
 
I just got off the phone with the CFC.

-It's "Due diligence" on the seller
-The seller can call the CFC to verify buyers *Name, *DOB and *License#; address cannot be verified.

That's it, that's all.

This is new for me because guns I sold before were always local & in person; I wasn't using the internet before the registry came to be.
 
Weird I can't edit my post.

Anyway, forgot to add: Trader Rating IMO will definitely mean a whole lot more now on CGN :)
 
This is what westrifle got in mail. Hope this helps

The Government of Canada has changed the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act to eliminate the
requirement to register non-restricted firearms effective April 5, 2012. Until further notice, due to a
Court Order issued by the Quebec Superior Court, residents of Quebec are still required to register nonrestricted
firearms with the RCMP Canadian Firearms Program. Please visit the Canadian Firearms
Program website for more information (http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/index-eng.htm).
Below are some quick facts for your reference.
Ammunition Sales
Individuals and businesses must be in possession of a valid firearms licence in order to purchase
ammunition.
Non-Restricted Firearm Transfers
Individuals and businesses must be in possession of a valid firearms licence that permits acquisition
in order to purchase non-restricted firearms.
Transfers of non-restricted firearms via Business Web Services or by the 1-800 number or by paper
are no longer required by law.
If you wish to confirm that the buyer’s licence is valid before handing over possession of a nonrestricted
firearm, please call 1-800-731-4000 and follow the prompts.
Restricted and Prohibited Firearm Transfers
There is no change to registration and transfer requirements for restricted and prohibited firearms.
Possession of Non-Restricted Firearms
Individuals and businesses must be in possession of a valid firearms licence in order to possess nonrestricted
firearms.
Non-Restricted Firearm Status
If you suspect that a non-restricted firearm you are about to purchase may be stolen, you can
contact your local police service and provide them with the serial number and description. They
will be able to query the firearm on the Canadian Police Information Centre (CPIC) database.
 
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