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Well I am facing a sticky situation, I am about to undertake my CFSC/CRFSC and obtain my PAL. There is just one minor problem, while I am a turning 19 in just over 3 months, my parents are... well... they're liberal. Long story short no firearms in the house. So, what are my options for storing it at a friends place who is fully licensed as with a PAL. PS moving out is not an option, I'm a full time University student who barely has enough to pay for my PAL and still have some semblance of a social life. :bangHead: Any help you guys could give would be great, I'm starting to think this may just be an exercise in futility.
 
Have you tried talking to your parents about it? Try to get them to talk to you as an adult, and see if they can explain whatever rationale they have for disliking/fearing weapons. You should try to debunk it, but parents don't always listen to their children... (Not a very liberal quality, mind you...)
 
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They can legally be stored in the posession of any legally registered RPAL holder. Get your PAL, Store them at a buddies house, get them on his LTATT and have him take them to the range with you. Non-Restricteds are no problems.
 
RayMan said:
Try to get them to talk to you as an adult, and see if they can explain whatever rationale they have for disliking/fearing weapons. You should try to debunk it, but parents don't always listen to their children... (Not a very liberal quality, mind you...)
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This is one issue neither of my parents will let me get a word in about, and I leave the room when someone starts talking over me as i figure getting into a yelling match wont solve anything.
 
Chances are they are still seeing you as their child, who can't look after them self (all parents still do). Sit them down, and explain to them that firearms are one of your interests, you are not expecting them to take an interest, just to have an understanding. Chances are they are not familiar with the laws. I would sit them down and explain some of them, better yet try to get them to read the CFSC Manuel.

Don't get into a yelling match, as that will only confirm their belief you are still a "child". Stay calm and show them you are a responsible adult that wants to enjoy one of the oldest sports in Canadian History. If the answer is still no, respect their wishes, that will help them see you are a mature adult.

As for storing your firearms at a friends, as long as they have the required License they can have full access to them, if they do not, they can still be stored at their place, but they can not have access to them.
 
Rutger and LeeEnfield, thank you for your help. And Lee I will try to sit them down and have a conversation about it again, but I will not be holding my breath on a successful outcome.
 
You barely have enough money to take your PAL and you concerned with where to store your guns you don't own yet?

Guns are certainly more expensive than the license, but you can legally store them at other people's houses
 
One thing you can do is try to get them to agree to let you store the guns, without ammunition. I have this same issue. After a bit of talking we decided that as long as there is no ammo in the house, they don't mind. It's a bit of a pain, but buying ammo before I shoot isn't that big of deal either.
 
your parents sound like mine did. when i was going to join the military my mom would have nothing to do with , but my dad (who was in the service and so was my grandfather and great grandfather) was all for it. my mom said she didnt like the idea of her son know how to kill someone or something. in my opinion i would say that 100% of the people who are against firearms (in general) are not educaed in the laws, or safe handling of them. they have been raised in ignorance to the fact and therefore it creates a deep hatred/fear (mostly fear of the unknown) towards firearms and firearm users. I hunt for food, not for sport or fun. i shoot for sport and fun but its done in a safe manner. Boomboy i think LeeEnfield hit the nail on the head. Talk to them, educate them. try to get them to understand what its all about. they need to be educated and brought to the realization that there will always be firearms, and there will always people that have interests in them and if used in the right hands they are completley safe. I have liberal friends and family members that despise the fact that i kill and process my own food, they say its 'in humane' and moroly wrong. yes they are meat eaters, and I asked them if they had ever been to a slaughter house, they all say no. if they only knew the inhumane way domestic animals are killed for food they wouldnt eat meat anymore. what im getting @ here is to try to find out why they dont like them and why there scared to have them in the house ('I just dont like them" or 'its my house, my rules' isnt a valid reason) mainly parents dont want their kids to use firearms because they think they will hurt themselves or someone else.

ignorance to the fact is the most dangerous thing
 
Some really sound advice here. I would disagree with the "I don't like them" or "it's my house, my rules" comment. As long as you are at your parents home you must first, respect their wishes, and second, their rules. When you move out you can change any rule you didn't agree with.
Be patient as Rome was not built in a day. Try to calmly educate them.. Take your Dad to the range and do some plinking.. Safe storage at a fellow gun owners place is not really an inconvenience if you want to pursue the sport and have no other option.. Safe storage should, (an approved locker), take care of the unauthorized use of your weapons although if you trust a guy enough to store your guns.. I suspect you wouldn't mind if he used them...
 
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Some really sound advice here. I would disagree with the "I don't like them" or "it's my house, my rules" comment. As long as you are at your parents home you must first, respect their wishes, and second, their rules. When you move out you can change any rule you didn't agree with.
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let me clarify i wasn't stating to disobey your parents rules it was an example of a piss poor answer to a question that deserves a VALID answer. Some parents will give these as their reason to avoid the questions. always respect your parents rules but if your asking questions, your parents should have the balls to stand up and answer them not shy away from them and give answers like that. thats called parenting. thats the context it was under. i know its hard to find the proper context of things when there written. ill try to be more specific next time.
 
I went through all of this recently so trust me i know its frustrating. This is what you have to do. Buy the gun you want and when you get it home you'll have to hear some yelling and complaining for a bout a week or so and it will all be over. My parents are very llibral too but once i explained to them how much of a freedom civilian gun ownership is they finally opened their minds alittle. OOOH and one more word of advice, dont tell them how much you spent, that got my dad fired up more then the actually "guns in the house" thing lol
 
Buy the guns ( which may be a problem if your struggling to get the license ) transfer them to a licensed friend ( that can legally store them and above all else, you can trust ) once you've moved out, transfer them back to you.

Simple and easy solution.

You can talk to your parents till your blue in the face, but the fact remains its their home and their rules, prejudice shows no bounds ( sadly )

Good luck either way!
 
My situation was similar. Luckily I had my brother buy the first guns, and completely disregarded what my mom thought. She got over it, although she still isn't 100% comfortable with it. I now own more guns and ammo than my brother, as he got me hooked on the hobby.

I like to use the driving a car analogy. If they can trust you to drive a car, which I find way more scary and confusing (still only have my G1), they can trust you with firearms. There are alot of really dumb mistakes you have to make in sequence to hurt someone with a gun.
 
Move out. Celebrate by having a cheerleader over. Invite the whole squad.

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Having your own place is AWESOME!
 
If it's possible, sit down with your parents and have a quiet respectful and mature conversation, try to explain that you are very interested in purchasing a firearm for target shooting. Let them know that you plan to purchase a gun safe to store your firearm, tell them that they could also keep their valuables such as important papers, jewelery, money etc. in the safe, which would benefit them as well. If they are still not in agreement with you purchasing a firearm then your only options are to follow the advice of some of the other forum members.
 
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