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EC said:
Jerry,
I agree with what you said. I also think real lr precision comes in other forms. Shooting tgts at long range at uk distance w/o utilizing rangfinders in less than ideal positions under a time constraint and no sighters or fouling rds
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Shooting at ukd targets and precision dont go together, look at drop tables and you will see that,Look how much different your poi is at 1000 when your "guess" is off by 50 yards, it is hard enough to accurately range a target at 1000+ yards let alone make a good first round hit.
 
bingo1010 said:
Shooting at ukd targets and precision dont go together, look at drop tables and you will see that,Look how much different your poi is at 1000 when your "guess" is off by 50 yards, it is hard enough to accurately range a target at 1000+ yards let alone make a good first round hit.
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Your missing my point,I know it's difficult but when you can effectively engage your target under those circumstances, thats precision and accuracy. I am well aware bullet drop and knowing your intermediate dope is crucial, as well as estimating the range correctly. I am not talking about a 1/2 moa v bull, I am referring to torso size tgts which is hard enough in itself at uk distances.
 
ivo said:
Come on guys...its 1000 yards out of the box!
pfff What a bunch of marketing Bull$hit!

Give the average guy a custom rifle, rangefinder and some custom turrets and let him believe he can go out and kill deer and elk at 1000 yards! Real f___kin smart Davidson Bros...real smart.
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Bingo. I have alberta made semi-customs that in my hands are good out to 400-500 m, beyond that it is my skills holding it back. Put it in the hands of some of my friends and they can easily shoot out to 1000 m. I know guys who can shoot open sights better that some guys with all the latest toys in a game of shoot the chicken at our range.
 
Bingo. I have alberta made semi-customs that in my hands are good out to 400-500 m, beyond that it is my skills holding it back. Put it in the hands of some of my friends and they can easily shoot out to 1000 m. I know guys who can shoot open sights better that some guys with all the latest toys in a game of shoot the chicken at our range.
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I know at guy at our range that can shoot the a**hole out of a flea at 100yrds!!
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bearkilr said:
Really? I always thought it was awful. The name alone is enough to turn me off.

I'm waiting for the day when an ad appears with a picture of Jim Schockey "trusting his life" to a Gunwerks "system". Laugh2
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OK granted, they can't spell. But let's face it, they have a TV show. That has to count for some street cred.

People are buying their guns, at inflated prices. Why? I have no idea. But my guess is their advertising is hooking all sorts of fish.
 
What? Nobody here signing up for the Gunwerks long range shooting courses. I mean hey, whats $2500 bucks for a weekend course to learn about one of the greatest gimicks in the history of sport shooting? Come on! You even get the priveledge of using one of their exclusive $8500 rifles!

"1000yds out of the box" speaks nothing of accuracy. I gotta $50 .22lr that'll live up to that guarantee.

I almost pity the fools that blow money on gimicks like this only to realize that the wind gods don't give a damn if you saw it on TV before you bought it, nor do they stand still in awe of the fact that you spent 9 freakin' grand on a rifle that came in a box!
 
I dont really care how much they sell their rifles for.. But what bugs me is that their marketing strategy may give some people the wrong idea about long range shooting.. The worst thing that can go wrong is an unexperienced hunter having to track wounded animal from that far away.
 
EC said:
Jerry,
I agree with what you said. I also think real lr precision comes in other forms. Shooting tgts at long range at uk distance w/o utilizing rangfinders in less than ideal positions under a time constraint and no sighters or fouling rds adds a degree of difficulty. Throw in moving tgts etc ups the ante greatly as well.
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Yes, the situation you described would be one WHERE I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND YOU SHOOT.

LR HUNTING is all about getting rid of the variables. This is hunting where the harvesting of game is the goal NOT launching lead at some poor mammal hoping you connect enough to get it home.

So why would you NOT know the distance, wind speed, ambient conditions as much as humanly possible?

AND WHY WOULD YOU SHOOT AT A MOVING ANIMAL?

There are sites dedicated to this form of hunting and approach it in a very focused manner. Every step is done in a way to maximize success and minimize the unknow.

Costs are high BUT that doesn't always refer to the rifle.

Given how well many rifles shoot, I would rather work with someone that has a $500 rifle, $1000 scope that works, $2000 in support optics, and $5000 in reloading components and spare barrels....

Then a $8500 super duper custom whatever.

Trigger time is the only way anyone is going to learn how to shoot.

And KNOWING how to shoot also teaches you when NOT to pull the trigger.

YMMV.

Jerry
 
Moose308 said:
OK granted, they can't spell. But let's face it, they have a TV show. That has to count for some street cred.

People are buying their guns, at inflated prices. Why? I have no idea. But my guess is their advertising is hooking all sorts of fish.
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Ironically, they can spell and are trying to add a flair of the European Exotic to their title.

"werks" is a common German term. So a hint of that old world touch.

Jerry
 
Mystic Precision said:
Ironically, they can spell and are trying to add a flair of the European Exotic to their title.

"werks" is a common German term. So a hint of that old world touch.

Jerry
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They still have it wrong, but I get what you mean. "Werk" is a plant in German, "Werke" would be the plural. "Werkes" is the possessive.

Same idea as the "Luxus Arms" brand of guns made in the US. IMO, it makes these products sound like a cheap, knock-off POS, which I suppose some are. :)
 
ivo said:
Come on guys...its 1000 yards out of the box!
pfff What a bunch of marketing Bull$hit!

Give the average guy a custom rifle, rangefinder and some custom turrets and let him believe he can go out and kill deer and elk at 1000 yards! Real f___kin smart Davidson Bros...real smart.
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lol
 
Ya you can shoot a thousand yards with a sedero and a custom barrel and some good optics. Spend the money you saved on some good reloading equipment and a range finder. There is no easy way to consistanly shoot 1000 yards. Time and practice, Lots of both !

I'm getting pretty good at it after 2 years. Ive just pulled up to the iceberg.

I actually have spoken to Greg at grouse river quite a bit. Seems to be very knowledegable. Pretty sure there Long Range Hunter is 6k canadian.

Sendero and custom barrel installed - $2500
Lica 1600 Rangefinder - $800
Used Nightforce scope - $1500
Swarovski non HD spotter with eye piece - $1600
RCBS Rock chucker supreme reloading kit - $349 At sinclair international
Wind meter -$100 or less

You can find optics and range finders that will do the job just fine for far cheaper than that. You would not have to look far at all to beat these prices.

A Gun with optics for 6K from some company with a gaurantee ... pass
 
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Gunwerks got a lot of people interested in long range shooting who otherwise wouldn't have. I think they have been very positive for the sport. I know a number of guys who got into it because of long range hunting shows. I have seen guys practising who never did before.Guys getting into reloading etc etc..
I am not suggesting it's all good but over all they have been a very positive influence on the sport( in my opinion).
 
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