Handgun of choice for target practice?

Grip said:
You are starting to take things personal. Shawn seems pretty level headed in his responses. Very informative I gotta say.

I have read some others refer too the mag fed shotguns as a good tool. But from my understanding, when you run out of ammo, you're screwed. Unless you have a bunch of mags of course. But who would with a shotgun? Whereas a simple pump with feedtube can be resupplied easily on the run. Just my .05 cents.
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I try not to take the internet to personally, but I appreciate your feedback.
Sometimes I try and use the smilley guy just to illustrate the nature of my feelings.

I would like to hear the rest of Shawn's story though for educational purposes.
 
It depends how much $ you want to spend. I have a 9mm and a .45 ACP. Here, 500 rounds of 9mm will cost about $125. 500 rounds of .45 ACP will cost about $250. If you don't care about IPSC points or "stopping power" then go for 9mm. If you want to go really cheap, then get a Ruger Mk III .22LR - you can shoot that all day without breaking the bank. For a 9mm I recommend a CZ75 SP01 Shadow. I have one and love it.
 
cn_1 said:
No, that's ad hominem. A strawman argument is where you misrepresent the opponent's position to make it easier to attack.
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You are correct, I was thinking one and typed the other.

Can-down said:
The answer to your question is once more in the post that you quoted...... you are younger then me "so what? it doesn't mean much in the end"
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Your the one who brought it up.

Can-down said:
In other words even though you are my junior I will still show you respect..... until you show me that you don't deserve it.
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Really? And yet you post this in the same post lol Hypocrite much?

Can-down said:
Shawn, Is it reading or comprehension that you struggle with?
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I have been nothing but respectful, your the one taking this personally. You seem mad that some thinks your wrong.

Can-down said:
Hey maybe you are older then me but more hip with your shortehand? Hard to tell really and like you say not that important to the subject at hand.
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And yet for some reason you keep bringing it up

Can-down said:
It seems to me that you don't respect others with different opinions then yourself.
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Really? Says the guy that thinks, thinking your wrong is disrespectful and then commences with personal insults and constant references to age for no reason.

Can-down said:
It might be nice that you've got it all figured out,
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I dont and never said I did, I just said disagree with you and gave the reasons why. And some how you turned that into me attacking your personally.

Can-down said:
but personally I enjoy the prospect of being wrong and learning from both my mistakes and experiences in life. I also enjoy learning through other peoples experience.
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Your post here say other wise.

Can-down said:
Perhaps you could share the whole story of getting your teeth smashed in because of a long gun? Sounds like a good story!
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There is no story, we were training with long guns and during a take away I took a barrel in the face, which would not have happened with a pistol as the "bad guy" would have had nothing to grab. Which is a whole other discussion about what happens when the bad guy grabs your barrel.

Shawn
 
Were going in circles now... and loosing some context.
Thanks for sharing your trained perspective.... and no I'm not being sarcastic.
 
What kind of target shooting? You'd be best cost wise with a .22 pistol and a .38/.357 revolver.
Where your club is doesn't make a lick of difference. Use a handgun for self-defence, anywhere in Canada, and you'll be arrested.
The 10mm is not a target cartridge and neither are the pistols it comes in. Not bad for pins if the pistol is set up right.
 
Oh gawd! Not again...I thought HD threads were Wednesdays? Bear Defence Tuesdays...blah,blah,blah...you know what, if the OP can't figure it out all on his onesee's, I for one don't want him armed!

Shawn; generally I enjoy your rebuttals and fantastic humor, but you're failing to point out to all that if one would be foolish enough to state "self defence or the defence of others" as reason to own a restricted firearm, that someone must be able to prove to satisfaction that your life or the lives of others in your home are under threat.

If you happen to be a mafia informant and Sal, Lou the Nose, and Papa Fats know where you live, have put a horses head in your bed as a calling card and you go to the cops...they may fast track the paper work for you.:p

In this context, Shawn is absolutely correct. As Canadians we have a right to defend ourselves {from a proven, known and actual threat on life...not a perceived fear}. I do believe the context has been somewhat blurred though.

@5point...it was covered on my RPAL, more so because of the instructor than curriculum I think.
 
plinker 777 said:
Shawn; generally I enjoy your rebuttals and fantastic humor, but you're failing to point out to all that if one would be foolish enough to state "self defence or the defence of others" as reason to own a restricted firearm, that someone must be able to prove to satisfaction that your life or the lives of others in your home are under threat.
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Only if you are applying for an ATC. Which in it self may not even be supported by law as the only place you have to prove anything in on an application that was made up by some anti and not part of the legislation.

Care to post up where in the act it says that.

Shawn
 
Onagoth said:
Streamlight is a brand of weapon mounted lights. Mounts right to the picatinny rails on most handguns. Very very bright. I've never actually needed it for anything, but I've tested it out in the dark. If someone looks at this light while its on strobe, they're likely to have a seizure and become blind. Its very intense.
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Thanks Onagoth. I was looking for a nice light for my CZ P07 I like the strobe idea. Even though i will probably NEVER use it, it adds to the mallninjaness of my 9mm.
 
shawn said:
Only if you are applying for an ATC. Which in it self may not even be supported by law as the only place you have to prove anything in on an application that was made up by some anti and not part of the legislation.

Care to post up where in the act it says that.

Shawn
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We both know very well that the reasoning for the refusal of an application isn't covered under the act Shawn. The refusal and the reasoning behind it lie squarely on the shoulders of the official to whom the request goes out to. That individual in turn is following internal policy {we hope}.
So your request isn't possible to comply with to my knowledge...but I'm sure you'll correct me.:)


Having said that, Section 28a) sub i) would see an officer approving the request for restricted if your life or the life of others are threatened...are you suggesting that no demonstrated need on the part of the applicant is required?

Every time I make a new acquisition {and therefore a new request to the CFO} I'm asked for what purpose {targets} I'm asked to which range I'm a member of. {No Range? What/where are you target shooting a restricted firearm} This questioning is in line with the intent and interpretation of the act and satisfies the demonstrated need for the respective restricted firearm. Try telling them you want it to defend your life with! Better have Sal and Lou as demonstrated need, and if that demonstrated need is true, you'd have more problems than worrying about your compliance with the act IMHO.
 
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A 12 guage shotgun 18.5 or 20" barrel Hogue stock (not pistol grip), 00 buck ammo, practice a lot get a light on it! a handgun is tough to shoot in a panic situation ( just look at the news, even police have trouble sometimes), you can shoot the wrong person! The shot gun is a bit easier to aim,, just be sure before you shoot! Even the short barrel shotties can be tricky ! Be sure of your target, practice a lot, get training! This way you have less chance of blowing your own or someone you love's head off by mistake!
 
plinker 777 said:
We both know very well that the reasoning for the refusal of an application isn't covered under the act Shawn. The refusal and the reasoning behind it lie squarely on the shoulders of the official to whom the request goes out to. That individual in turn is following internal policy {we hope}.
So your request isn't possible to comply with to my knowledge...but I'm sure you'll correct me.:)


Having said that, Section 28a) sub i) would see an officer approving the request for restricted if your life or the life of others are threatened...are you suggesting that no demonstrated need on the part of the applicant is required?

Every time I make a new acquisition {and therefore a new request to the CFO} I'm asked for what purpose {targets} I'm asked to which range I'm a member of. {No Range? What/where are you target shooting a restricted firearm} This questioning is in line with the intent and interpretation of the act and satisfies the demonstrated need for the respective restricted firearm. Try telling them you want it to defend your life with! Better have Sal and Lou as demonstrated need, and if that demonstrated need is true, you'd have more problems than worrying about your compliance with the act IMHO.
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Your whole range thing has been shot down multiple times in court the only reason they still ask is people continue to bend over and not challenge them. I tried it, but it was about 5 years ago and no black helicopters came and I got my gun.

Like I said the only reason stuff like that happens is no one is willing to fight it, or for that matter even bother to read the firearms act. Not saying you haven't, but in general.

Shawn
 
shawn said:
Your whole range thing has been shot down multiple times in court the only reason they still ask is people continue to bend over and not challenge them. I tried it, but it was about 5 years ago and no black helicopters came and I got my gun.

Like I said the only reason stuff like that happens is no one is willing to fight it, or for that matter even bother to read the firearms act. Not saying you haven't, but in general.

Shawn
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That's the problem with that. When I first became an FAC, then PAL owner I was told by the club members to never say you wanted a pistol for self-defense. The local police would never give you one for that reason and we knew it.
The main reason most new members get into handguns is they see a potential self defense compact firearm. They would rather lie and be PC about getting a handgun than declare the real reason to own one.
There it is. We lie to get what we want to save a hassle as we've been taught.
 
shawn said:
Your whole range thing has been shot down multiple times in court the only reason they still ask is people continue to bend over and not challenge them. I tried it, but it was about 5 years ago and no black helicopters came and I got my gun.

Like I said the only reason stuff like that happens is no one is willing to fight it, or for that matter even bother to read the firearms act. Not saying you haven't, but in general.

Shawn
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Don't misunderstand brother, I know what you're saying. I'd like to take the fight to them as well because like you and the majority of us on this board, I feel it ought to be no ones gawd damn business why I want a gun. Unfortunately this isn't the reality, it is not a right of citizenship to own firearms in Canada...:( Therefore, we answer the questions.
 
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