Has it ever happened?
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- Yellowknife, NWT
I did see an old article where they investigated this and couldn't make it happen. They sectioned the magazine and discovered that the cartridges tended to sit slightly crooked so that the bullet nose was resting on the RIM of the cartridge in front of it.
Their results notwithstanding, they allowed that it was likely that eventually their luck would run out and there would be an accident.
Their results notwithstanding, they allowed that it was likely that eventually their luck would run out and there would be an accident.
Buffalo Creek Law Dog
Regular
Winchester levers in 30-30 use pointed bullets.
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- Chilliwack
lets send this one to mythbusters they like to blow things up
Saw a description & photos of one that had blown. .450 Alaskan, with hard cast flatpoint bullets. More than one round fired. Mag. tube was a seamless replacement, glasbedded into the forend. Wasn't pretty, shooter's left hand was mangled.
A standard tube will split its seam, release pressure.
A standard tube will split its seam, release pressure.
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- Somewhere on the Hudson Bay Coast
I don't even think Leverlution ammo is safe in a tube magazine. The plastic tip that is designed to be soft enough not to set off a primer turns as hard as a lead tip when used in the cold. Just because a potentially dangerous situation is considered to be an unlikely or rare event, it should not be discounted. Sooner or later we will hear of a magazine failure due to the use of Leverlution ammo. It is unlikely that a round will fire in a box magazine, but I've seen the results of that happen when Pounder's Brno 602 had a factory .458 round go in his magazine.
Having said that now, it is possible to safely loaded pointed bullets in a traditional lever action rifle if you load the rifle as a 2 shooter. Chamber the first pointy round and load the second pointy round into the magazine. A .30/30 so loaded with 130 gr TTSXs at 2400-2500 fps would be 300 yard capable.
Having said that now, it is possible to safely loaded pointed bullets in a traditional lever action rifle if you load the rifle as a 2 shooter. Chamber the first pointy round and load the second pointy round into the magazine. A .30/30 so loaded with 130 gr TTSXs at 2400-2500 fps would be 300 yard capable.
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- Yellowknife, NWT
In their earlier ads for Leverevolution, Hornady said they had tested it for safety to 50 degrees below or so, as I recall.
A company smart enough to come up with and successfully market a product like this is not likely to leave a lawsuit door open. I'd use it under any conditions.
A company smart enough to come up with and successfully market a product like this is not likely to leave a lawsuit door open. I'd use it under any conditions.
Uh, no they don't.
The only lever 30-30 I know of OK with spitzers is the Savage model 99. No factory ammo until the Hornady stuff was produced with anything pointy.
The latest blow up with a magazine I have seen was a replica lever action in 45 Colt. I think Uberti made it... a copy of an old Winchester with the loading tube open on the bottom. It is a heavy magazine tube not easily bent or damaged. It has a light spring plunger and you load the magazine from the muzzle end. Basically you drop a cartridge in the tube and it freely slides down to the action. Usually you stand the rifle on it's butt stock and drop the shells in one at a time and then engage the spring and plunger to feed them into the action as you lever it.
He dropped the first shell down and it stopped at the action. He dropped the second shell down and when it hit the previous shell, it fired. The bullet exited the magazine tube missing him. The magazine tube bent outwards where the shell had been. It could have easily killed him.
They were reloads with round nose bullets because he found they fed better than the flat nose bullets.
Surprisingly I was able to 'close' the expansion on the magazine tube and make the rifle usable.
I think he sold that rifle...
He dropped the first shell down and it stopped at the action. He dropped the second shell down and when it hit the previous shell, it fired. The bullet exited the magazine tube missing him. The magazine tube bent outwards where the shell had been. It could have easily killed him.
They were reloads with round nose bullets because he found they fed better than the flat nose bullets.
Surprisingly I was able to 'close' the expansion on the magazine tube and make the rifle usable.
I think he sold that rifle...
