Have you dealt with Loyalist Arms?

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I have been looking at a couple of their guns and would opinions based on actual experience with their products.

They seem too well priced to be that good.
 
I have not owned any of there guns but I do have a first model bess for india that I got from a different supplier. The require some final woodwork touchup and a re stain also tuning the lock and lightening the trigger pull is a must. In most cases the frizzen will have to be hardened.

Its not all that much work to do and for the money not bad. Depending on the gun you are interested in there are a couple repro besses on the ee right now. One is a pedersoli for a really good price!

If I were to buy another one I would buy it from flintlock repair out of the us. He tunes the lock hardens the frizzen and can do all sorts of other special request if you dont want to do it yourself.

Cheers, McLean
 
Are those prices current? Anybody ask recently?
There have been looooong discussions about the India made guns, all over the net. At least Loyalist sells guns, and not replicas that you have to drill for a touch hole.
 
tbrwlf said:
I have been looking at a couple of their guns and would opinions based on actual experience with their products.

They seem too well priced to be that good.
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I'll say this about them. I do own a Loyalist Arms imported blunderbuss. I bought it here on the EE for less than brand new asking price. It works fine for what that's worth.
The company did respond to my email request for suggested loads BTW.
 
tiriaq said:
Are those prices current? Anybody ask recently?
There have been looooong discussions about the India made guns, all over the net. At least Loyalist sells guns, and not replicas that you have to drill for a touch hole.
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i can tell you that most inida made guns come from the same place and almost all are imported without the touch hole drilled

people can waste they're money how they wish but the quality is not there with guns made in india
 
Saying this one gun is better than another gun is very subjective IMO.
In my example I bought a second hand Indian made blunderbuss last year, for a fair price I should say. And I've had no problems with it other than the minor foibles of a new flintlock shooter. On the other hand I felt once I wanted a caplock BP rifle, I too should choose a North American manufactured example for the purposes of higher quality this fall past. About 47 PRBs expended with much fun at the rifle range. And this winter, ten days before the end of deer season, my Browning Mountain Rifle breaks it's mainspring on a Saturday morning at the very moment of legal shooting time.
Who would of thought that this would happen??
I post this to further demonstrate, nothing is written in blood, one way or another friends.

Cheers!
 
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Brutus said:
Saying this one gun is better than another gun is very subjective IMO.
In my example I bought a second hand Indian made blunderbuss last year, for a fair price I should say. And I've had no problems with it other than the minor foibles of a new flintlock shooter. On the other hand I felt once I wanted a caplock BP rifle, I too should choose a North American manufactured example for the purposes of higher quality this fall past. About 47 PRBs expended with much fun at the rifle range. And this winter, ten days before the end of deer season, my Browning Mountain Rifle breaks it's mainspring on a Saturday morning at the very moment of legal shooting time.
Who would of thought that this would happen??
I post this to further demonstrate, nothing is written in blood, one way or another friends.

Cheers!
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alot of thing go wrong with commercial guns too but indian made stuff is just not quality wood and metal fit is not always on par and locks need work but there is a reason many dont come with they're touch holes drilled because they where not made to be fired
 
antiqueguy said:
alot of thing go wrong with commercial guns too but indian made stuff is just not quality wood and metal fit is not always on par and locks need work but there is a reason many dont come with they're touch holes drilled because they where not made to be fired
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Mine came as a gun to be fired. No lockwork required. Wood to metal fit is just fine.
 
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Call them the owner, Blair is a real stand up man and usually has no problem answering questions.

I like Loyalist as they service the arms they sell, tune locks and whatnot.
 
mrclean89 said:
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If I were to buy another one I would buy it from flintlock repair out of the us. He tunes the lock hardens the frizzen and can do all sorts of other special request if you dont want to do it yourself.

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I second flintlockrepair.com


I just bought a blunderbuss from this guy and can't recommend him strongly enough. The gun's solid, the lock works like a dream, and a real blast to shoot. The finish is kind of rough but it doesn't feel cheap. Took it pigeon hunting last weekend and it preformed great (http://smithj.ca/img/pigeons.jpg), I'll definitely be going back when I'm ready to buy a brown bess.
 
Brutus said:
Saying this one gun is better than another gun is very subjective IMO.
In my example I bought a second hand Indian made blunderbuss last year, for a fair price I should say. And I've had no problems with it other than the minor foibles of a new flintlock shooter. On the other hand I felt once I wanted a caplock BP rifle, I too should choose a North American manufactured example for the purposes of higher quality this fall past. About 47 PRBs expended with much fun at the rifle range. And this winter, ten days before the end of deer season, my Browning Mountain Rifle breaks it's mainspring on a Saturday morning at the very moment of legal shooting time.
Who would of thought that this would happen??
I post this to further demonstrate, nothing is written in blood, one way or another friends.

Cheers!
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I have worked in India. If you've had good luck with an Indian made firearm it is just that, I assure you, "luck".
 
HKMark23 said:
I have worked in India. If you've had good luck with an Indian made firearm it is just that, I assure you, "luck".
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SKS rifles and Norincos are safe to shoot and rarely does anyone question that fact. But for some reason, it seems to be the flavour of the week to bash these cheap but safe even more primitive firearms. Almost always by someone who does not own one, btw. Have you been to the manufacturer's factory? The technology has been mature since about what, let's say 1777 or thereabouts. It's not rocket science to build smoothbore flintlock muskets and such. Surely if your statement has some basis in fact, then every single day someone should be killed or injured with self detonating Indian muzzleloaders. Flintlockrepair has one of these Indian musket breechplugs displayed, but it is copyright protected or I would have it pasted here. Meanwhile, Loyalist Arms, flintlockrepair and Military Heritage Firearms are still in business & thriving.
A strange but true fact. :rolleyes:
 
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