Having seconds thoughts on buying an XCR...

torontoipad said:
I also purchased an XMR-M when you did. I have some misgivings on the barrel screw but my experience has been very positive for the purposes I purchased the rifle for. I am more concerned about having a properly functioning SA bush rifle that can dispatch dangerous wildlife in very cold (Yukon this year) type conditions, run cheap .308 and stand abuse from getting dragged from trucks/planes/cabins and is NR. Checks all those boxes.

In terms of sub-MOA engagements outside of 100m? There are other tools for that. Is it perfect, nope. Is it expensive, yup. Overpriced? Its all relative. Hasn't let me down yet, its like the Toyota Hilux of rifles; black and white, some cheap bits, not popular here, dead simple to use and takes a beating. If there are gunsmiths or an aftermarket solution to your concerns (my bolt HO works) then I will certainly look at them down the road, thanks for your excellent analysis!

Cheers

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Big_Red said:
What sort of work do you use a white XCR-M for?
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Stevo said:
Hunting rebel droids?
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Back when Star Wars was awesome!
 
Carry an AR10 into the bush?.........not in this country. But agreed mate, a lot of "experts" have only shot from bench and expect sub-moa with these....that not the role of this tool.
 
Epoxy7 said:
The problem is the AR10. The XCR looks a lot like one. It's the same size, similar ergonomics and expensive. Plus it has a heavier barrel etc. An accurized AR10 can shoot .5 moa. This is where the XCR accuracy expectation comes in.
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And I should point out, the expectation isn't for .5 MOA with an XCR. 1.5-2 should be attainable no questions asked. The sad reality is however that the XCR-M is a 3-4 MOA rifle with a 5 shot group. Based on the idea of lining up popcans and blasting away, this can be done with an SKS for what, 1/12th the price?

It's an awful lot of money to spend on a rifle that can't hold it's own amongst other firearms. Yes it's absolutely up to the eye of the beholder, but, those of us looking for accuracy are at the very least looking for consistency, which the -M simply doesn't provide, except for being a consistent let-down in the accuracy department.

I've already stated mine was 100% reliable, but with that, I expected 2MOA at a minimum. It simply doesn't do it, and that's shameful for the price we have to pay.

But, that's not to say folks shouldn't buy them. What I don't understand is how Robinson Armament hasn't been laughed out of production yet.
 
torontoipad said:
Carry an AR10 into the bush?.........not in this country. But agreed mate, a lot of "experts" have only shot from bench and expect sub-moa with these....that not the role of this tool.
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Sub moa with a semi auto... Very very very few can honestly with proof state that in an assault rifle rig...

Don't believe all the bullshiat about people hitting 2 inch groups at 300 yards (0.66 moa) with iron sights. A whole lot of bullshiatters here.
 
WeatherdoG said:
EDIT: Further to my last, how many people in this thread have ever fired a 542 made for the Canadian market?
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That's the right question.
The XCR isn't perfect and when it came out the platform had it's teething issues, but generally they are pretty damned great now and recommending a completely untested and unknown firearm as an alternative to due to largely perceived issues is absurd!
 
The AR-10 patent has also expired enabling many companies to put there own R&D into the design. Taking the AR-10 from the battle rifle conception to a DMR / pression rifle which several companies have managed to do. Any AR-10 from any manufacturer will not be guaranteed sub MOA plenty are match grade plenty aren't. I hope rob arms makes a "match" xcr-m with a stainless match barrel, longer barrel extension that is held in by several torqued to spec screws.
 
I wouldn't be too concerned about the quality. What is happening is that there is a small number of very loud dissatisfied customers, who made their complaints early on in the rifles development. Of which some of it is warranted, there were some teething issues in its inception. Almost all of these issues have been resolved, pay no heed to people like "misanthropist", he has a hate on for the XCR for some reason and I would recommend disregarding his bravo sierra. At the end of the day the XCR is one of the most reliable platforms out there, it will serve you fine.
 
SPRTN308 said:
The XCR-M is heavy, not a precision rifle, and the real concern is will parts be available in 5-10 years. The fact that there isn't any real support from Robinson Armament when it comes to availability of spare parts and such is the main reason I got rid of it.
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Buddy, everything is going to be prohibited in 10 years. Parts availability is the least of your concerns.
 
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Well to the dude wondering here is my two cents:
bought a used XCR from a great cgn'r awhile ago loved it! it was in 7.62X39 flavor with a cool stainless barrel, I bought the 223 conversion, loved that too!, wanted a swiss arms and the only way I was going to afford it was to sell something expensive, so I got rid of the XCR
bought a swiss arms black special, loved that too wasn't any better groups from it though!!!! not that the groups were bad just not great!, got worried about the whole swiss arms craziness so I traded it off and just yesterday ordered a brand new tan xcr in 7.62X39!!!!! so suffice to say I love them they are fun they are cool looking, they are so very versatile (3 calibers) and they shoot pretty consistently, now you need to do what you feel is right but if your looking for advice only take it from people who own them or owned them and got rid of them cuz the rest of the crazies are only regurgitating what they read or watch on youtube!!! cheers
and if you do get one I am sure you will love it as much as the rest of us!!!
 
Brappp306 said:
Well thanks for all the info guys! But as of tomorrow I think I will be picking up the tavor, I simply just don't trust the XCR. Decided I'd rather save up and later on buy a Savage 10BA 308. for hunting/target. That way I'll have the tavor for coyotes and slinging lead down range, then the 10BA for Big game.
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The 10BA is a range rifle, they are so heavy you won't want one in the bush. I've shot one and it was very accurate but if you want a big game rifle go with a model 10 precision carbine or something similar.
 
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