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"...a .22 semi-auto with a hi-cap mag for HD..." No. Not enough power. HD isn't allowed in Canada anyway. Use a firearm to protect you and your's and you will be charged.
"...12.5 is too short..." Really just something somebody saw on a TV show and decided they wanted one. A shotgun with that barrel length is just a big kid's toy.
"...legalities of owning a firearm for hd in Canada..." Start by reading the Criminal Code of Canada(CCofC). Part of which is the Firearms Act(FA). Section Three, as I recall. Owning a firearm for SD is a reason to own one, but you'll never get the permit. CPFO policy.
 
popcanhunter said:
thats what i thought, but i dont like to assume when asking is so easy.

as per fudd philosophy, what's wrong with rapid firing?

i prefer wood stocks, and don't see the point of black rifles. am i a young fudd in the making?
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Nope but you could be labeled as one if you don't follow the crowd
 
popcanhunter said:
dumptruck, i think you mean HD is not a legal reason to USE a firearm in canada, and in MOST cases that is accurate.
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No, self defense is not considered a legitimate reason to own a firearm in Canada. When you apply for your license put "self defense" down as to your intended use and see what that gets you.


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popcanhunter said:
dumptruck, i think you mean HD is not a legal reason to USE a firearm in canada, and in MOST cases that is accurate.
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No, I meant exactly what I said. In Canada it is illegal to own a firearm for the sole purpose of home defence. There are concealed carry permits that go part of the way to this but they are like hen's teeth.
 
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As others have pointed out , don't even think of a gun as a valid form of home defence in Canada as its pretty much 100% guaranteed that using one , regardless of the reasoning , will result in you being prosecuted .

You said you might be asking the question for your home in another country ? Check out the laws there very carefully . Aside from that , shotguns have different chokes , which control your spread . Length of the shotgun is more personal preference . Shottys sold in smaller lengths are going to be more maneuverable in a close space , so its reasonable to assume that most people in the market for a home defence one are going for 18 inches and under . Your recoil is going to be extreme in a 12 inch one .

Again , in Canada , you'd be better off defending yourself with a bat , or anything BUT a firearm .
Be vewy , vewy careful .
 
sunray> thanks... the second actual response to my questions. thanks for the real info.
(as a big kid, i am not necessarily opposed to big kid toys haha)

now to speak on what this thread has been hijacked into;

i believe we are allowed to use whatever force NECESSARY to defend ourselves.... not whatever force we want, but whatever is NECESSARY to avoid death or grevious bodily harm to ourselves or our family. we are not legally obligated to let people kill us.

over the years i have read bits and peices of both cc and fa, and ive probably read every word of both at one point or another. i have no idea where one would get the idea that it is criminal to own a gun for the purpose of hd. please, if somebody can quote the specific legislation prohibiting this, that would be awesome.

i understand if you used a gun for hd, you would be arrested, and charged... and self defense is a positive defense, which shifts the onus of proof on the accused to prove they were not culpable.

owning a gun for hd, and using a gun for hd, are two very different things. using one for hd will put you in a position of having to prove you were within your rights to do so, but a holder of a pal owning a shotgun that he bought because he appreciates the qualities it has that would lend themselves well to hd, is not the same thing, at all.
 
dagmar. as previously mentioned i would investigate bumps in the night with bear spray and a bat, but i am asking about how various characteristics of shotguns would lend themselves to home defense.

i did not ask, should i use a gun for hd in canada
i didnt ask whats the legal issues of using a gun for hd in canada
i didnt ask about the legalities of owning a gun for hd in canada

i simply asked how do various characteristics lend themselves to hd

dumptruck> where is that question on the pal ap? i cant find it.
and who said anything about sole purpose? there could be a secondary purpose like i enjoy making the chick-chick sound, or a tertiary purpose, like it impresses chicks.
there is no application a pal holder must complete in order to purchase a non-r shotgun.




this is all very interesting stuff, and as i mentioned earlier, i would love to partake in a conversation about it so that i may learn more. hopefully somebody starts a thread about this topic, and allows my thread to be about the questions i asked.
 
no, no...

kamlooky was right.... im wonderin what shotgun is best for well hung shooters HAHA

cuz if i turn around too fast, it takes a while for the heavy-momentum to stop so that i may acquire my target. is there shottys good for countering this?

haha
 
popcanhunter said:
sunray> thanks... the second actual response to my questions. thanks for the real info.
(as a big kid, i am not necessarily opposed to big kid toys haha)

now to speak on what this thread has been hijacked into;

i believe we are allowed to use whatever force NECESSARY to defend ourselves.... not whatever force we want, but whatever is NECESSARY to avoid death or grevious bodily harm to ourselves or our family. we are not legally obligated to let people kill us.

over the years i have read bits and peices of both cc and fa, and ive probably read every word of both at one point or another. i have no idea where one would get the idea that it is criminal to own a gun for the purpose of hd. please, if somebody can quote the specific legislation prohibiting this, that would be awesome.

i understand if you used a gun for hd, you would be arrested, and charged... and self defense is a positive defense, which shifts the onus of proof on the accused to prove they were not culpable.

owning a gun for hd, and using a gun for hd, are two very different things. using one for hd will put you in a position of having to prove you were within your rights to do so, but a holder of a pal owning a shotgun that he bought because he appreciates the qualities it has that would lend themselves well to hd, is not the same thing, at all.
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Nope sorry cant use your firearms at home for HD (home defence) you have to call police and hide in closet till they arrive... that would be illegal...so it cant happen.
 
i've read many cases of people being acquitted after defending themselves in canada with force.

please people, take this topic to another thread.

does anybody have any opinions on barrel length, action, and guage of shotguns in a hd context?

much thanks to the TWO responses ive had so far. any more would be appreciated.
 
popcanhunter said:
i've read many cases of people being acquitted after defending themselves in canada with force.

please people, take this topic to another thread.

does anybody have any opinions on barrel length, action, and guage of shotguns in a hd context?

much thanks to the TWO responses ive had so far. any more would be appreciated.
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What is your price-point?
 
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