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[Wiskey1]

says nothing about providing any firearms info,just checking licenses,which we all do already,it's a BIg "IF" most guy will bother calling in,most probably wont,good luck trying to enforce this crap.LOL.if you've been on here for a long time,and you provide a valid PAL.all most care about,
if i call in to check a license,and they ask for anything else but the PAl info,they'll get a lot of answers like,just sending ammo,nothing more,
not to mention they already can't handle day to day calls,just try to call in a transfer right now,you'll be on the phone for ever,IF you get through,we already try to validate licenses sometimes,and can't get through,so people give up and send the new toy to it's new owner,
we either roll over again,or stick it to the Turd,

 

[bacardi]

I can’t wait for election and fire Justin Turdeau and his lack of common sense and dignity minions.

#willnotcomply

 

[ravenzoom]

says nothing about providing any firearms info,just checking licenses,which we all do already,it's a BIg "IF" most guy will bother calling in,most probably wont,good luck trying to enforce this crap.LOL.if you've been on here for a long time,and you provide a valid PAL.all most care about,
if i call in to check a license,and they ask for anything else but the PAl info,they'll get a lot of answers like,just sending ammo,nothing more,
not to mention they already can't handle day to day calls,just try to call in a transfer right now,you'll be on the phone for ever,IF you get through,we already try to validate licenses sometimes,and can't get through,so people give up and send the new toy to it's new owner,
we either roll over again,or stick it to the Turd,

Yes, but new firearms sold will be monitored. Plus, I wouldn't put it past them to get undercover cops making a few examples of firearm owners not following this new stupid law. And correct me if I'm wrong, but nothing says the Libs won't add to these laws and make them even more intrusive.

 

[Karnage]

Can you walk us though the process. Wouldn’t you have to report the fact that you destroyed it.

Simple.
There is no legal requirement to report the destruction of a non-restricted/prohibited firearm. It just ceases to exist.

Just don't try it with a handgun, restricted rifle or prohib that is registered with the CFC. You would be breaking the law.

Edit:
If you are a business you would need to report the destruction/disposal of the firearm under Section 58.1 (a) in the new regulations.

 

[EL34/6L6]

I wouldn't put it past them to get undercover cops making a few examples of firearm owners not following this new stupid law.

Why would they? No onus is on the purchaser with this new law.

 

[Hellfrozeover]

Why would they? No onus is on the purchaser with this new law.

Undercover cops posing as buyers, targeting private SELLERS that don’t follow the new rules.

 

[Psynova]

I'm curious as to what is covered under this, is it only for purchase of "Firearms" or will it cover parts and conversion kits?

 

[Wiskey1]

Undercover cops posing as buyers, targeting private SELLERS that don’t follow the new rules.

i'll only deal with members that have been either major gun sites for a good while,no new members,EVER,

 

[Wiskey1]

Simple.
There is no legal requirement to report the destruction of a non-restricted/prohibited firearm. It just ceases to exist.

Just don't try it with a handgun, restricted rifle or prohib that is registered with the CFC. You would be breaking the law.

Edit:
If you are a business you would need to report the destruction/disposal of the firearm under Section 58.1 (a) in the new regulations.

you can call in tell them you destroyed ANy firearm,it's your property,restricted or not,
you just need to let them know when "it cease to be a firearm"..period.

 

[Wiskey1]

Yes, but new firearms sold will be monitored. Plus, I wouldn't put it past them to get undercover cops making a few examples of firearm owners not following this new stupid law. And correct me if I'm wrong, but nothing says the Libs won't add to these laws and make them even more intrusive.

they can know who the original buyer from the stores is,but the guy can sell it to any licensed person the minute he gets it,so much for the added security of knowing who bought what,LOL..

 

[rmsg0040]

^^

Reporting of acquisitions and transfers
(2) A person referred to in paragraph (1)#(a) or (b) who acquires or transfers a firearm shall have the Registrar informed of the acquisition or transfer.


Sell it to someone and it ends up being used in a crime, guess what, you were the last person who it belonged to.

 

[Poffels]

From CSAAA

Big Changes Coming May 18th?
We understand that there is information circulating about possible firearm regulation changes coming into effect May 18th.

During a meeting on April 24th with the RCMP and Public Safety, CSAAA was informed that there was no set implementation date as of yet, and that adequate notice would be given to allow our industry to prepare.

To ensure we are offering our members the most accurate information, we at CSAAA have reached out to our contacts at the RCMP and Public Safety to confirm the validity of this information and offer further clarification.

We will send out updates and further direction to our industry members as soon as we possibly can.

 

[Karnage]

you can call in tell them you destroyed ANy firearm,it's your property,restricted or not,
you just need to let them know when "it cease to be a firearm"..period.

Of course. But there are no penalties for destroying a non-restricted firearm and not reporting it. I don't wish to be charged under Section 106(1) of the FA or need to explain myself to our overlords the why and hows.

Like all things brought out by the Libs, they just add more b.s. to an ever expanding pile of excrement on the CCC while doing nothing to fight real crime.

 

[WW2GURU]

I get my legal advise from dudes in a chat thread

 

[Wiskey1]

^^

Reporting of acquisitions and transfers
(2) A person referred to in paragraph (1)#(a) or (b) who acquires or transfers a firearm shall have the Registrar informed of the acquisition or transfer.


Sell it to someone and it ends up being used in a crime, guess what, you were the last person who it belonged to.

oh really,now,,what if the thing has been sold 10 times over since purchased new,LOL.so much for that.

 

[Wiskey1]

Of course. But there are no penalties for destroying a non-restricted firearm and not reporting it. I don't wish to be charged under Section 106(1) of the FA or need to explain myself to our overlords the why and hows.

Like all things brought out by the Libs, they just add more b.s. to an ever expanding pile of excrement on the CCC while doing nothing to fight real crime.

and where exactly did you see a difference between restricted and non restricteds as far as filling a affirmation of destruction goes.

 

[trebor2880]

oh really,now,,what if the thing has been sold 10 times over since purchased new,LOL.so much for that.

The first door they are comin' a knockin' on, is the last recorded person on record, who owed it.

At the very least, y'all gonna have some hefty legal fees to deal with.

 

[rmsg0040]

oh really,now,,what if the thing has been sold 10 times over since purchased new,LOL.so much for that.

Ignorance of the law is not valid in court

If you purchase a firearm from a retailer and they give you a reference #, it is carried with you.

Sell it or give it away not not doing it the proper way, the reference # is still attached with you.

OK LOL BUDDY

Reading is fundamental: https://parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-71/royal-assent

Don't be stupid

Authorization to transfer non-restricted firearms
23 (1) A person may transfer one or more non-restricted firearms if, at the time of the transfer,
(a) the transferee holds a licence authorizing the transferee to acquire and possess a non-restricted firearm;
(b) the Registrar has, at the transferor’s request, issued a reference number for the transfer and provided it to the transferor; and
(c) the reference number is still valid.
Information — transferee’s licence
(2) The transferee shall provide to the transferor the prescribed information that relates to the transferee’s licence, for the purpose of enabling the transferor to request that the Registrar issue a reference number for the transfer.
Reference number
(3) The Registrar shall issue a reference number if he or she is satisfied that the transferee holds and is still eligible to hold a licence authorizing them to acquire and possess a non-restricted firearm.
Period of validity
(4) A reference number is valid for the prescribed period.
Registrar not satisfied
(5) If the Registrar is not satisfied as set out in subsection (3), he or she may so inform the transferor.

 

[Can-down]

(2) The transferee shall provide to the transferor the prescribed information that relates to the transferee’s licence, for the purpose of enabling the transferor to request that the Registrar issue a reference number for the transfer.
Reference number

Does anyone know what the prescribed information is?

Runkle claims that it's enough information for people to easily start buying guns illegally but he doesn't say what that information is? I assume it's more then Name and PAL number but I find it bizzare that it's not clear and reading the words transferee and transforor several times gave me a headache..... I really don't like reading legalese.

 

[Karnage]

and where exactly did you see a difference between restricted and non restricteds as far as filling a affirmation of destruction goes.

I said it before. You don't need to report the destruction of ANY non-restricted firearm or antique for that matter. How can I say it any plainer?

If you don't believe me, please find the relevant section in the CC or regs saying otherwise.