Heads up! Marstar's page is up for STG44,BD38,BD3008

H Wally said:
This was battled to the death in the other thread. The end result was that it would have been too difficult for the company to make a decent or even functional repro of the stg 44 in 7.62x39, most of it's importance was in the caliber used, if you can afford the gun you can probably afford the ammo, and they'll be making 8mm Kurz ammo available.
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I find it difficult to accept that they could not be chambered in 7.62x39 with ease, there is very little difference between the cartridges.

They are nice things to have, but they are not as nice to shoot as a VZ/CZ 858, the mechanism clatters a hell of a lot, but they do have character. I have seen a STG 44 with a scope rail, but no scope was fitted at the time.

It would be interesting shooting with the devise they made for this rifle to shoot around corners, I think it was called a Krumlauf. The spelling is most likely wrong. It would be good to go down to the range and shoot at targets sideways, I expect it would scare the #### out of the guy I was facing.:)
 
The X39 round is a fair bit longer. Which would mean new mags and possibly new reciever dimensions. These may well be made on original tooling to save costs.
 
It won't be available in 7.62x39, let it go. Offended by the price? There's SKS, if you find a decent Russian, hell, you can even consider it collectible. I'll get one eventually, and I'm a piss poor student.
 
Spencer said:
I find it difficult to accept that they could not be chambered in 7.62x39 with ease, there is very little difference between the cartridges.
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:rolleyes:

Don't like it? Don't buy one! There are plenty of CZ 58's and SKS's out there that can be had for much less, and do the same thing. Part of owning one of these rifles is the cartridge. I'd gladly re-load for this rifle.

I find it hard to believe that people think it would be 'easy' to re-chamber these things for 7.62x39... it's a longer cartridge! Don't you guys get it? That means: new mag, new reciever, new gas system, new sights, etc, etc, etc... they would have to completely re-engineer the rifle which would drive up the cost. Most of the people #####ing about this wouldn't even buy one because of the price in the first place.
 
Claven2 said:
They exist, but no importer has brought them in yet. MGS is making them from new stateside with exportable 16" barrels.
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MGS is NOT makeing them another company is they are over 1 year BEHIND as serious function or lack there of problems order one now maybe get it in 2 years IF they dont run out of kits that they can nolonger import....

problem with ppsh is they were hand fitted when manufactured so any company assembling these from kits MUST NOT mix up the parts or you will have serious fit and function problems you cannot just swap parts around I have a few ppsh bolts and they vary in bolt face hight by .40 thou now when you add tolerance stacking in manufacture with the new recievers all the sudden the bolt is off the barrel by 1/4 inch......
 
CanAm said:
7.92K brass is not hard to get. Marstar will likely have ammo available.
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Exactly, which makes the 7.62x39 issue a moot point.

Scarecrow said it best about the demads for a 7.62x39 STG44:

Scarecrow said:
You people are like fat slobs in the trailler park being given a ferrari and asking where you plug in your toaster oven and microwave.
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cool
but alas if i was going to drop 3 gs on a firearm it I would have to say precision rifle
the price is probalby justified but find 3 grand is alot for those (no offense marstar)
 
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Tyler said:
:rolleyes:

Don't like it? Don't buy one! .
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Now why did I not think of that :confused: :)

Tyler said:
I find it hard to believe that people think it would be 'easy' to re-chamber these things for 7.62x39... it's a longer cartridge! Don't you guys get it? That means: new mag, new reciever, new gas system, new sights, etc, etc, etc... they would have to completely re-engineer the rifle which would drive up the cost.
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There is very little difference between the 7.92 Kurtz and the 7.62x39, especially when compared to the .22 rimfire. It is my understanding that there is a repro STG 44 available in .22 long rifle. A 7.62x39 example would be simple by comparison.
 
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*A note to marstar:
Dear Marstar,
You have my word that after I graduate from university (or become rich, whichever first) I will choose either the BD38, Stg44, or the Fg42, and buy it. It may take a while, but you will hear from me.
H Wally
 
Spencer said:
There is very little difference between the 7.92 Kurtz and the 7.62x39, especially when compared to the .22 rimfire. It is my understanding that there is a repro STG 44 available in .22 long rifle. A 7.62x39 example would be simple by comparison.
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Actually no. First off going shorter is easy, longer is very tough. Second, the 22 is a song. No gas system, simple blowback action, etc.
 
God I would love to own one of each. But dam them prices to hell. Who ever said or says that money can't buy you hapiness can eat my ####.

God willing, one day ill win some cash on a scrath & win ticket or the like and be able to buy these kind of things. But for the amount of time it takes to just save up to buy a 9mm Hi-Power for me right now with mortgage, bills, bills, dogs, truck, gas, food, bills I might never be able to own so many things that i love. :bangHead:
 
Spencer said:
There is very little difference between the 7.92 Kurtz and the 7.62x39,
How about the 6mm of casing length and the .3 mm of bullet diameter. The pressure differences on the gas system are also a concern as well.

As already said, this would cause a whole new gun to be made. It would need a new magazine, mag well, a new chamber and barrel and a new gas system. They would have to redesign the whole thing which would cost alot of money and take alot of time.

If you have handled these before, you will realize that it takes alot more than just swaping barrels to change this. But if you think it is so easy, draw up the engineering plans and have a gunsmith build one.

Cam
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