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H Wally

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Alrighty, first off, I didn't plan on posting this until I had a discussion with two other gun owners today and it startled me a bit.

It went as such (paraphrased) :

Me: So you hear that the liberals said that they want to ban military based semi autos?

Them: Yeah, so?

Me: You do realise what that means right?

Them: Who cares? They're all restricted anyways. Besides, you only need one shot to hunt.

Me: Do you honestly think that they are going to stop with that? Heck, 20 years ago you could, and many people did, hunt with restricteds and prohibs. They don't now because it was made against the law, not because they never did.

Them: They won't ban my rifle...:bangHead:



The moral of my story is this my friends; I know many people here are primarily hunters. Heck, I myself pretty much only own bolt actions, but I still am concerned about the mindset that I see so often, which is: This doesn't affect me, I'm safe, so let them do what they want.
I wasn't a gun owner during the last set of bans, but from everyone who was, it was that mindset that allowed those bans to happen!




For those of you who don't believe it, or are on the fence, read a bit into the wording of their ban:

They want to ban "all military assault weapons". From their actions, this can be applied to military derived guns as well. Think about just how many guns have common designs or origins in the military world.

They want to ban guns with "use of a large capacity magazine". How much of a step would it be for them to suggest that any gun capable of holding a "large" capacity magazine be banned. Just think - enfields, pump action shotguns, .22's and all manner of other guns would then suddenly be completely illegal.

Finally, what about this statement: "possessing military features such as:...threaded muzzle". That's right ladies and gentlemen, once they've banned "military assualt weapons" they can ban your interchangeable choke shotgun! Not only could a longer magazine tube be fitted to your deadly goose or duck gun, but it has a THREADED MUZZLE!





I know that many people in the firearms community may disagree with me, and I can respect that.

What I'm asking is for you to take a close look at the past and present state of gun control and prohibition in Canada, Britain, Jamaica, and the states and ask yourself: Do you really think they'll leave you alone in the end? Do you really think that they won't just turn the tables on you once they've divided us once?

Prove them wrong and defend our rights.



To the mods: I know similarly themed threads have been posted elsewhere, but I thought it would be appropriate here as well.
 
The gun haters need only get their foot in the door. Remember the Spas 12. It could be bought legally over the counter and carried like any other shotgun. Where is it today and what made if different than any other shotgun in everyday use across this country? If the Libs are elected, how long will those Dlask shorties be around? I figure about 10 minutes. Handguns will be a thing of the past. Kiss your center fire semi autos long guns goodbye; they'll be gone and the gun grabbers won't care if it's a military firearm or not. Once all those are all gone does anyone think they'll be satisfied?
 
No they won't be satisfied. What we need is a complete reform of government, the constitution, the Charter of Rights etc..... There are lots of changes needed that will never come. The elected officials that ascend to these positions all played the game to get there and they are not about to start to change things now that they have the power. Remember, the PM is just a friendly dictator.........
 
I think you are largely preaching to the choir here on CGN, (at least I hope so). But I hope everyone will attempt to educate the hunters, and shooters they know, as to the real agenda the Liberals have towards gun owners.
They want ALL guns gone.
 
You're right H Wally. I emailed every gun owner I know last night (my first political email ever) and also spoke to my dad about the damned Lieberals. The conversation with my dad was basically like you had:

Me - The ####ing Liberals announced today that they want to ban all "military assault weapons", but their definition is so broad, they'll end up with half my guns right away. You should join the CSSA and CPC and DO NOT VOTE LIBERAL. Mom either.

Dad - What, I don't own any of those guns like you do.

Me - You hunt geese with the same Beretta semi-auto I do. Liberals are calling semi-autos "military assault weapons", along with a whole bunch of other guns you'd never expect.

Dad - What?! #### those idiots!

Me - What are you going to do when the police show up at your door and tell you to hand over your shotgun?

Dad - Tell them to #### off. They can't do that!...

The conversation kind of went downhill after that!

Keep talking to anyone who'll listen. I'm pretty sure I got a handfull of people to join the CSSA and CPC just since I joined yesterday.

Keep up the good work!
 
You're right H Wally. I emailed every gun owner I know last night (my first political email ever) and also spoke to my dad about the damned Lieberals. The conversation with my dad was basically like you had:

Me - The f**king Liberals announced today that they want to ban all "military assault weapons", but their definition is so broad, they'll end up with half my guns right away. You should join the CSSA and CPC and DO NOT VOTE LIBERAL. Mom either.

Dad - What, I don't own any of those guns like you do.

Me - You hunt geese with the same Beretta semi-auto I do. Liberals are calling semi-autos "military assault weapons", along with a whole bunch of other guns you'd never expect.

Dad - What?! f**k those idiots!

Me - What are you going to do when the police show up at your door and tell you to hand over your shotgun?

Dad - Tell them to f**k off. They can't do that!...

The conversation kind of went downhill after that!

Keep talking to anyone who'll listen. I'm pretty sure I got a handfull of people to join the CSSA and CPC just since I joined yesterday.

Keep up the good work!

Huh hah....you're Dad said the F word.:p I think you will know which way he will vote. Trick is to talk to everyone and get them convinced the same way.
Heck, I never thought I'd own a semi yet I got my first one (high powered) this spring. Even if it is a century old and designed for sporting use they will still want to take it away.:( Stand united boys. If not for your friends who pack them, do it for your kids who might not get to have any chance to do it when they are old enough to. :wave:
 
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You heard it here first folks - Hell has frozen over! What's next? Will Ben shoot premium jacketed bullets in a whizzum??!!:)

It's not like I wanted to, it was a moral sense of duty.:D Long live the little model 8.

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Just remember, all laws are open to interpretation. If it starts with semi auto, it could easily be changed, wording wise to a ban on military style rifles. If you go back through history, military rifles included muskets, muzzleloading rifles, single shot breechloaders, lever actions, pumps, and of course autoloaders. Amazing what happens when you remove two words from a new bill, eh? Personally I'd rather just have the Liberals shove the whole thing up their ass, mind their own F-ing business and do their job: Make the country a more prosperous place to raise a family, not argue like children in the Romper Room.
 
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