Heckler and Koch - how do you pronounce it?

This is too funny, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. In my opinion my HK is tops over my Beretta. Thats MY opinion.

Just because a military uses a certain firearm or piece of equipment doesnt mean squat. I know a thing or two about military procurement. The people testing have nothing to do with the final contract being awarded.

The majority or trials are based on a pass/fail. The requirements are created and products are evaluated against it. Or in other cases, requirements are given out for products to be created. The people doing the trials only report finding ie. Product X did or did not meet the requirement. After that it gets very political.

Therefor the selected tool is not always the right one for the job......but it has met the requirement.
 
ottawaguy said:
This is too funny, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. In my opinion my HK is tops over my Beretta. Thats MY opinion.

Just because a military uses a certain firearm or piece of equipment doesnt mean squat. I know a thing or two about military procurement. The people testing have nothing to do with the final contract being awarded.

The majority or trials are based on a pass/fail. The requirements are created and products are evaluated against it. Or in other cases, requirements are given out for products to be created. The people doing the trials only report finding ie. Product X did or did not meet the requirement. After that it gets very political.

Therefor the selected tool is not always the right one for the job......but it has met the requirement.
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Must be why we are still using the BHP :roll:

I'm not a beretta fan. Used a few and they never fitted my hand, found them bulky and heavy. Never tired the Vertec or anyof the newer Beretta out there. Now HK I found the grip was bulky, the gun was top heavy and the mag release sucked.

Now both guns are $$$. None of them are on the top of my list. I pefer the SIG.
 
I pefer the SIG.
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The SIG is awesome if you are right handed. It is an awkward ##### of a gun for lefties (well, at least for this lefty anyway). Take your SIG, grip it with your left hand, and now try working the decocking lever. See what I mean?

It's one of the reasons I've always gone back to HK. The controls are ambi, and the slide release is easily manipulated with the index finger on the left hand.

Anyway, I agree that SIG makes a great handgun. I just wish I could operate it.
 
maurice said:
yeah, it is ponounced "coke". I have called HK USA , and that is what the automated phone message states.
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Yeah, right, like whomever recorded that speaks German fluently.

Everyone here pronounces it: "Heckler and Cockh", with a bit of phelgm to make it clear you are pronouncing a German name.

Certainly when I was in school they taught us that German was a phonetic language, so it would be leaning more towards "####" than "coke". Somewhere inbetween, which is how every German I've heard say it pronounces it.

But on the other hand, how many Canadians who speak English use the French pronounciation of: "Montreal"?

Name that sound faintly obscene in foreign languages always end up getting pronounced differently, one of the classics being "Peugeot", which in the UK is pronounced completely differently so that the "poo" bit at the start is pronounced "purr". Both of which are wrong IMO. "Peu" in French is pronounced "Po", or near to it.
 
Slavex said:
how about "Overpriced ####"?
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In the US I've noticed the prices on H&K stuff are way higher than in other countries. When I saw the LE price list on MP5 stuff I was like: :shock:

I bought a brand new MP5 flash hider here for £15, in the US they go for over $100 which is insane.
 
rainer said:
It's another thread thats becoming ridiculous. How many of you guys have actually used a pistol in a military enviroment (I'm talking about dirt,sand,sal####er etc.),to be entitled to compare any of the pistols mentioned,in a factual,unbiased way?-Rainer
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But is that the right way to judge a pistol? I don't really care how well a pistol works when it's full of mud, I'm never going to fill it full of mud!

But it does bring up an interesting point, the USP may feel like a 2x4 in your hand with a spongy trigger pull and a ####ty magazine release, but it is a tough pistol.

A P226 on the other hand has a better trigger pull, better sights, better magazine release, etc., but it's far easier to scratch and it will rust more easily (which is why NYPD removed them as an approved sidearm until SIG Arms started putting nickel-plating on the steel parts for the NYPD contract guns).

Horses for courses.

My personal view is that the best "all around" pistol at the moment is probably the SIG Pro SP2022. I think it's as tough or tougher than a USP, and it has a better trigger pull and a proper magazine release.

Not as refined as a P226, but it's more hard wearing than a P226.
 
Ok...enough with who pronounces it which way, whether it is the Americans or whoever saying 'heckler kotch, coke, etc'...it's wrong. It's hard to write phonetically on the pc especially when people do not pronounce letters always the same. Furthermore, I can't write in linguistic symbols and most people can't understand them either. So..'heckler coc' the 'coc' being like '####' without pronouncing the K sound.

Hehehe....Who can pronounce Löwenbräu? Hacker Pschorr? Donauschifffahrtsgeschäftkapitänspfeiffe?

Just joking around....Germans can't pronounce 'squirrel'
 
cybershooters said:
I've noticed that most Americans pronounce: "Porsche" and "coupé" incorrectly, so I'm not surprised they can't pronounce: "Heckler & Koch" either. :lol:
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That's why American car manufacturers don't give cars foreign names any more difficult to pronounce than "Coupe de Ville". :lol:
 
The proper way to pronounce Heckler seems to be no problem. If you anglizise Koch( which means cook,btw) anything goes. If you want to pronounce it in German the best would be to make it rhyme with Loch as in Loch Ness. There are simply no guttural sounds in English( unlike Scottish) that would hit the mark.
 
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texdores said:
The proper way to pronounce Heckler seems to be no problem. If you anglizise Koch( which means cook,btw) anything goes. If you want to pronounce it in German the best would be to make it rhyme with Loch as in Loch Ness. There are simply no gutteral sounds in English( unlike Scottish) that would hit the mark.
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That's actually a pretty good explanation...
 
Peu in French is not pronounced po, that which you sit on. Here again English doesn't have an equivalent sound which would render the pronunciation of "Peugot" correctly. In can be rendered in German by the sound of "ö".
 
Slavex does have a rather picturesque way of stating his position on H&K quality.
Perhaps he can enlighten the rest of us why?
 
To Winz: I believe that should be Oberdonauschifffahrtskapitänwitwenlebensversicherungsgesellschaft. There is no such a thing as a Geschäftkapitänpfeiffe. Admit it you made it up. Good joke though.
 
Texdores, it's just a kompositum to teach little kids...one can make up whatever he or she wants....I never remember what the original is supposed to be.

Wo kommst du denn her? Bist du Deutsche oder hast du deutsch gelernt?
 
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