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- West Quebec
+1...Highly recommended on a ATV
Helmets mandatory in Alberta green zones !!
- Thread starter Keithjohn
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+1...Highly recommended on a ATV
This is like complaining about seat belt laws. I'm sure you would agree that pending the rest of your life with brain damage should win over the temporary discomfort of wearing a helmet. Everyone has a whine until it saves your life. The depressing part is that there has to be a law about it. We shouldn't have to regulate something that should be common sense.
You shouldn't need the crown to tell you to wear safety equipment. Also, using phrases like 'Libtoids' doesn't make you sound smart. It weakens your argument because it sounds childish.
You shouldn't need the crown to tell you to wear safety equipment. Also, using phrases like 'Libtoids' doesn't make you sound smart. It weakens your argument because it sounds childish.
If a person is willing to give up the right to free healthcare, so they aren't a burden in the case of utter stupidity, then they should be able to go without a helmet.
As long as you participate then it only makes sense that you play your part to avoid unnecessary extra costs to the system.
As a side note a friend of the family on his 42nd birthday pulled his Harley out of the garage to show a few family members, he popped the clutch accidentally as his hands were greasy from a leaky burger, the bike jerked to the right, it fell and there in front of everyone he hit his head on the cement and died.
No helmet
His children were never the same
As long as you participate then it only makes sense that you play your part to avoid unnecessary extra costs to the system.
As a side note a friend of the family on his 42nd birthday pulled his Harley out of the garage to show a few family members, he popped the clutch accidentally as his hands were greasy from a leaky burger, the bike jerked to the right, it fell and there in front of everyone he hit his head on the cement and died.
No helmet
His children were never the same
Well if we are going down the path of the government telling us all what we can and can not do because it's for our own good - when are they going to out right ban smoking? how about drug use? The government makes a ton of money off of cigarette tax so that won't happen, then they set up "safe" injection sites. What is that called - oxymoron? How about mandating that everyone must wear sunscreen of a predetermined strength when the uv index reaches a certain point? It is after all for your own safety. I raced motocross years ago and would never entertain the idea of riding without a helmet on the track or anywhere that I was going fast. But putting around the field or trails at home on the quad even in the bush to go fishing and rolling from one spot to another - no. All in the context of use
Not always, think the law was passed when I was a kid remember being on 4 wheelers before the law came into effect and no helmet. Want to say around 1988 or 1989. But good advice, I too use the brain bucket. The thing that irks me is on a SxS you need a helmet. Roll cage and seatbelts aren't enough? You are more exposed in a jeep or convertible on the highway. In NFLD you don't need a helmet on a SxS only Atlantic province where I think it's legal.
Plenty of people have injured themselves going slow on an ATV. All of your examples are things that you make a decision on as an adult which is fair. The crown shouldn't have to tell you that smoking is bad for your health, and that you should wear sunscreen to avoid potential health risks in the future. You raced motocross? Then you should understand that motorized equipment is dangerous at any speed. You don't need to hit your head hard to do damage.
Of course Sikh's should be exempt because of their religious believes .
Ok going to update this because some are not aware. Sikh's in Manitoba and BC are exempt from motorcycle helmet laws because they wear a turban and it does not fit under a helmet. They have tried to have the law changed here in Ontario but have been unsuccessful so far.
Ok going to update this because some are not aware. Sikh's in Manitoba and BC are exempt from motorcycle helmet laws because they wear a turban and it does not fit under a helmet. They have tried to have the law changed here in Ontario but have been unsuccessful so far.
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- Medicine Hat
You are spot on LeducAB.
The crazy part is that we actually need a law for something like this. People walks around spouting off about having common sense and not wanting big brother to be telling them what to do. The trouble is that most people don't have common sense and and more importantly don't want to accept the consequence of their actions. I'm sure not one person would be willing to give up their free (socialist) medical care and insurance coverage for their property and loved ones because they decided to make a bad choice. Not a year goes by in the area that I ride in, that I don't hear about someone getting seriously hurt or killed on a quad or sxs that would have been prevented or at least had the impact greatly reduced by simply wearing a helmet.
My Dr. son-in-law calls people he sees riding quads and motor cycles without helmets "organ donors." Anyone who thinks helmets are some sort of conspiracy theory, or refuses to wear seat belts because its a law is just stupid, and may well be costing all of us vast amounts of health care dollars some day. Your freedom ends where my nose (or wallet) begins.
I have spent 30 years in Fire/rescue and EMS. I have spent way too much time sitting in a ditch beside a "free rights loving" body talking to the passenger who survived because of safety equipment. Wear your helmet, and do up your safety belt. Do it for the sake of everyone you love, even if you don't love yourself enough to do so.
I have spent 30 years in Fire/rescue and EMS. I have spent way too much time sitting in a ditch beside a "free rights loving" body talking to the passenger who survived because of safety equipment. Wear your helmet, and do up your safety belt. Do it for the sake of everyone you love, even if you don't love yourself enough to do so.
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Exactly. If you don't care enough about your own health, perhaps think of your loved ones.
Helmets mandatory for ATVs in Alberta? Next thing you know they'll be wanting cyclists to wear them.
Personally, I'd like them to require licenses and insurance for cyclists.
Specially those crazy mountain bikers. Grizz
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Riding a quad around isn't hunting in this guy's small change and having to wear a helmet isn't going to affect one's chances of success. It'll also save the taxpayer money when guys roll their quads, and as a taxpayer I'm all for it. Very minor inconvenience.
What the he'll does that have to do with anything?
- Location
- calgary alberta
The part that chokes me is that there is no differentiation with what they term ATV. On an standard quad where there is no 5 point safety harness or roll bars a helmet makes sense, same as a motor cycle. But in an enclosed steel cage, held in place by a 5 point harness , what gain could possibly exist?
By Canadian motor vehicle standards this should be classed as highway legal. Yet it is only possible to register it as a OHV.
In the USA I can drive it on the highways as there it is considered an automobile due it having all of the requisite things such as signal lights, wipers, horn etc.
I doubt that the morons who run this province have given the slightest bit of thought to side by sides and any other vehicle that have been lumped in to the ATV catch all.
By Canadian motor vehicle standards this should be classed as highway legal. Yet it is only possible to register it as a OHV.
In the USA I can drive it on the highways as there it is considered an automobile due it having all of the requisite things such as signal lights, wipers, horn etc.
I doubt that the morons who run this province have given the slightest bit of thought to side by sides and any other vehicle that have been lumped in to the ATV catch all.
Personally, I'd like them to require licenses and insurance for cyclists.
Grizz
I know you are being sarcastic but I concur. Personally, I like "live and let live" but if I am going to be forced to pay taxes for free health care, I want to set a standard that minimizes my exposure to someone else's stupidity. Safety gear for all. I would extend that to skateboarding adults (an odd animal in and of it's self) and seadoos and paragliding things.
- Location
- calgary alberta
Then would not proper safety attire extend to forcing motor cyclists to wear more than sandals, shorts and wife beaters?
I am all about freedom of choice, but after seeing 1st hand how a lovely lady can be turned very ugly by road rash makes me wonder when seeing so many motor cyclists that ride as close to naked as possible. It IS a slippery slope the local dippers have started down.
I would have thought that proper safety gear is a given, I wore a orange vest hunting deer before they were mandatory. I wear steel toed shoes at work even though I am an IT tech supporting a major military trade school and have little to do with heavy crap. I have seen the those shorts and sandals guys on the highway, usually passing me at more 110kph.
