Help a new guy out........ Ziess, Leupold or Nikon

Depends , for ejection it is no big deal , if you have a top load, hinge plate type it gets more difficult but not impossible.And the rail i suggest is a picatinny style not leupold. But it will fit even with 2 piece bases, just have to play around and get the right ones, it'll work.

And to everyone else, lets stay on topic. Ieven find myself drifting off the original question:p



sniper_26_99 said:
A one piece rail mount would fit across the whole top of the action? Would that interferer with the ejection?
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I like the Zeiss Conquest for low light I think it is much better than the Leoupold.The 3x9x40 is around 500.00 hard to beat for that price.
 
remember , the bigger the scope, the MORE it weighs- and i wouldn't worry too much about magnifcation- in most cases , a 3x9x40 is all you need- just get quality- if you want more, BUSHNELL also makes a 4x12x40 which is just a little more- that said, i have a scopecheif and a banner 4x12x40 and i NEVER go above 10x anyway- take a look at what other s are shooting and you'll see that very few venture above 10x- the reason for that is that you SHAKE so hard over 10x that unless you're braced, it's hard to get a shot- you can see every heartbeat and breath at 18x
 
Your still shakin at low power too, you just don't see it!!;)

"...............I had him in the crosshairs!!, how could I have missed!!..........."


t-star said:
remember , the bigger the scope, the MORE it weighs- and i wouldn't worry too much about magnifcation- in most cases , a 3x9x40 is all you need- just get quality- if you want more, BUSHNELL also makes a 4x12x40 which is just a little more- that said, i have a scopecheif and a banner 4x12x40 and i NEVER go above 10x anyway- take a look at what other s are shooting and you'll see that very few venture above 10x- the reason for that is that you SHAKE so hard over 10x that unless you're braced, it's hard to get a shot- you can see every heartbeat and breath at 18x
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3-9x40 is lots for big game within 200 yards. Keep in mind that high magnifications will substantially magnify your shaking from most field positions. I would even consider a 2-7x or 1.5-6x as valid alternatives.

A 4-12x or 4.5-14x is better suited to varmint rifles.
 
zeiss for clarity, Leupolds clarity is close but not the same, and Nikon now with most stuff made in china I wouln't touch although I am a die hard Nikon Camera guy, but their lenses are still made in Japan as photographers won't accept the stuff made in china.

Leupold has the best warrrany by far, nikon the worst, as for magnification thats all personal preference. 3x9 is standard, usually most animals are shot on 6 power.
 
as i got older , i found that 3x-9 didn't quite do it for me anymore- my "average" shot was high 200s- low 3s and i couldn't relaibly see that with a 3x9- background included - that's the reason for a 4x12- granted , it looks really oddball on a savage 99, but that's what works for me- i still have the 3x9s on my m14s as a 32mm doesn't block the "tunnel" the way a 40mm does
 
If it was 200m maximum distances I'd put a Leupold 6x42
on top.
IMHO damn near the best scope ever made.:D

Point and shoot.
 
I use only Leupold and Zeiss. Leupolds are typically more compact, Zeiss a bit brighter. I don't bother with other makes, I'm sure there are other good ones, but there is no guess work with this pair of manufacturers.
 
sniper_26_99 said:
Just purchased my first high power rifle. Being a pistol guy I know very little about scopes and possible mounting options.

Seems like everyone has a different opinion at every store I go to. I don't even think the last customer service KID who gave me advice ever shot a riffle in his 18 years on this earth......... LOL!!!!

Anyways......... I have a Savage Weather Warrior FCSS in 30-06 and looking to get a good scope that hold true zero and that I could use for hunting and I also plan on rolling my own ammo to see what king of accuracy I can get out of it.

I already have a Bushnell 3X9 on a .22 Remington and I 3X9 would be kind of week for longer shots.

What power would you recommend for hunting and precision shooting? I don't think I'll be doing any shooting over 100/200 yards.

What are things to consider? Its pretty hard to look at a scope and say it does the job without having fired it?

Also would like your input on warranty and after sale service if something goes wrong.

Thanks for the info
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Some good council here already but I'll throw my twobits worth in.

For the ranges you are talking 2.5-10, 3.5-10, 3-9, 2.5-8... all of these are fine. The lower power is very desirable if you are hunting in standing timber.

Leupold VXIII's are a good middle of the road scope with a great warranty and great service. From my experience I don't find their glass as clear as the Zeiss Conquest or Elite 4200 but it's fine. They definitely have the best eye relief.

The Bushnell 4200 Elite in the 3-9 x 40 is I think for the price one of the best values out there. Slightly heavier and bulkier than a Leupold but in my opinion clearer glass with better low light performance. Not as good eye relief though.


The Zeiss Conquest in the 3-9x40 is another high value proposition. Even better glass than the 4200 with similar eye relief.

As far as warranties and service, there is no doubt that the Leupold warranty and service is legendary, but the thought of the day here is that I've never had to use the warranties on my other scopes.
 
Leupold VXIII's are a good middle of the road scope with a great warranty and great service. From my experience I don't find their glass as clear as the Zeiss Conquest or Elite 4200 but it's fine. They definitely have the best eye relief.
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I find the eye relief on the 3-9x40 Conquest to be superior.It offers a constant 4" at all magnifications,unlike the VXIII which varies by up to an inch or more,and can be as short at 3.6".
 
Think more folks have to try the Zeiss, they may speak of one brand being superior to the other without trying. I have used ,owned, and tried many.

The Zeiss have been around for years but they haven't got the marketing that Leupold has( More people in the world know Ronald MacDonald than Jesus by sight, go figure). Just try one, that is all the advice I can offer any further.

You won't be disappointed. You don't like it, many folks here will take it off your hands ;)
 
leupolds warranty center is in canada turn aound time is at most a few weeks, eye relief is great its NOT a swarovski, zeiss, hensoldt or schmidt and bender, nightforce, but for the op's needs it would by far and away be the best choice for the $$$$. I use all of the above and have no trouble hitting things with the leupods funny enough.
 
dizzy said:
zeiss for clarity, Leupolds clarity is close but not the same, and Nikon now with most stuff made in china I wouln't touch although I am a die hard Nikon Camera guy, but their lenses are still made in Japan as photographers won't accept the stuff made in china.

Leupold has the best warrrany by far, nikon the worst, as for magnification thats all personal preference. 3x9 is standard, usually most animals are shot on 6 power.
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Dizzy can I ask why you think this? We have two warranty centers in Canada in the east and west. All of our products are covered by a 25 year warranty if purchased at an authorized Nikon retailer.

Also all of our products feature Nikon glass and are manufactured in the Phillipines and not China.

For the OP's original thought I'd suggest a Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 BDC scope as it will allow you a wide enough field of view for close shots and enough reach at the range to get you that true acquisition.
 
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