Help me find/make my do it all rifle. EDIT:WE DID IT

Rem SPS tac AAC 16" barrel, throw it into an MDT LSS Short chassis with a carbon fibre adjustable AR stock, then a Carbon Fibre rail and a good scope, Timney Calvin Elite Trigger and a muzzle brake. I have this exact rifle and it’s pretty accurate with store bought ammunition and puts the rounds through the same hole at 100 yards with my hand loads. Probably cost me 2100$ if I bought everything on sale. Hope this helps.
 
Canadiankeeper said:
Im thinking
REMINGTON 700 SPS TACTICAL, GHILLIE GREEN - .308 WIN., 16.5" THREADED [85538]

with a

KRG Kinetic Research Group, X-Ray Chassis

the adjustability with that stock is awesome. The 308 should kill anything inside 300 on this continent, and the 16" barrel will be super handy to carry and point.
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Buy one of the two 700ltr’s on the ee currently and pick up a chassis if you feel the HS Precision stock doesn’t work for you.
 
I STILL HAVE NOT DECIDED! LOL

I think if a sig cross in 308 goes on sale some time soon ill get it. Give it a shot. It is everything I want, assuming it shoots.
 
Trudeau is doing his damnedest to help you out.

If he stays in office, your do-it-all rifle will be whatever he has left you with.
 
Is $3k just the rifle, or rifle and optic?

If $3k is just the rifle a Sako Finnlight 2 could be a really nice choice? You may still be able to find a few new ones on shelves in the $3k range with the Sako 90’s having been released. I have an 85 Black Bear that fits all of your criteria minus adjustable cheek piece and really like it. The Finnlight 2 loses the iron sights, but adds a nicer stock and adjustable cheekpiece. The 90 Adventure looks nice but is above your budget.
 
Honestly, all these "builds" people are throwing in as ideas just don't make sense here, IMHO. Buy this action, then find that barrel, locate this other trigger, get yourself this special stock, likely pay a 'smith to do at least some of the assembly...oops, sorry, the "build".

To me, this kind of stuff makes sense for the diehard accuracy nut, who handloads every round as though he were cutting and polishing a raw diamond. Guys who don't merely "reload", which implies they just want cheap ammo (like me!)...but rather "handload" because every 0.1MOA is important to them.

If you aren't in that category...if you just want to shoot a bunch, and want to buy ammo that gives you great accuracy, without actually jumping into the bottomless pit of handloading for the ultimate precision...why waste time and money with hardware that is targeted at that market? What is the point of putting a $1000 or $2000 chassis on something like a Rem700SPS wearing a $100 barrel? To look cool? It may look cool to some, but to the real diehards it looks like what it is, i.e. lipstick on a pig.

Don't get me wrong; that "pig" will likely shoot very well, and will serve you well for most hunting...but a budget action wearing a factory barrel will not shoot any better with a fancy stock. It might make it slightly easier for you to wring out whatever accuracy it has, but it won't make that $100 barrel into a $1000 barrel.

This thread is going on two months old. Stop agonizing over it; buy something, shoot it, play with it, decide if you like it. If you do, great! If you don't, you will have learned more from the exercise than you ever will listening to 50 people with 50 different opinions...and you will have had a bunch of fun shooting something new for a couple months, something you can always sell and move on to something else. Shooting is more fun than internet debating. You're buying an inanimate toy, not a new heart valve.

You're asking for the Ultimate Rifle. The mere fact that you need to ask the question virtually guarantees that you won't find it the first time...or the second...or the 10th!...because the Ultimate Rifle is different for everybody and the only way to find it is to buy and use a bunch of Not-So-Ultimate Rifles to refine your needs and wants. Fortunately, it's a pretty enjoyable process.

There ya go...another opinion! :)



Canadiankeeper said:
I think if a sig cross in 308 goes on sale some time soon ill get it. Give it a shot. It is everything I want, assuming it shoots.
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Howa superlite. Comes in at 4 pounds 7 ounces. Put on a lightweight optic. Factory barrel is 20”. Chop to 18” for weight saving and minimal velocity loss. Done
 
The new tikka roughtech ember has the 20" barrel your looking for and weighs 6.6 pounds. I've been eyeing them up for a 7mm08 build
 
jjohnwm said:
Honestly, all these "builds" people are throwing in as ideas just don't make sense here, IMHO. Buy this action, then find that barrel, locate this other trigger, get yourself this special stock, likely pay a 'smith to do at least some of the assembly...oops, sorry, the "build".

To me, this kind of stuff makes sense for the diehard accuracy nut, who handloads every round as though he were cutting and polishing a raw diamond. Guys who don't merely "reload", which implies they just want cheap ammo (like me!)...but rather "handload" because every 0.1MOA is important to them.

If you aren't in that category...if you just want to shoot a bunch, and want to buy ammo that gives you great accuracy, without actually jumping into the bottomless pit of handloading for the ultimate precision...why waste time and money with hardware that is targeted at that market? What is the point of putting a $1000 or $2000 chassis on something like a Rem700SPS wearing a $100 barrel? To look cool? It may look cool to some, but to the real diehards it looks like what it is, i.e. lipstick on a pig.

Don't get me wrong; that "pig" will likely shoot very well, and will serve you well for most hunting...but a budget action wearing a factory barrel will not shoot any better with a fancy stock. It might make it slightly easier for you to wring out whatever accuracy it has, but it won't make that $100 barrel into a $1000 barrel.

This thread is going on two months old. Stop agonizing over it; buy something, shoot it, play with it, decide if you like it. If you do, great! If you don't, you will have learned more from the exercise than you ever will listening to 50 people with 50 different opinions...and you will have had a bunch of fun shooting something new for a couple months, something you can always sell and move on to something else. Shooting is more fun than internet debating. You're buying an inanimate toy, not a new heart valve.

You're asking for the Ultimate Rifle. The mere fact that you need to ask the question virtually guarantees that you won't find it the first time...or the second...or the 10th!...because the Ultimate Rifle is different for everybody and the only way to find it is to buy and use a bunch of Not-So-Ultimate Rifles to refine your needs and wants. Fortunately, it's a pretty enjoyable process.

There ya go...another opinion! :)





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I mean, the man spits facts lol.

I just cant "pull the trigger" lol Real talk, a rem 700 sps 16" barrel stock, will do everything Im asking except the adjustable stock. Heck, ive had a savage 110 preditor that could shoot 3/4 moa consistently (I just find them ugly af) I just love the cool factor of the sig. Ergo and handy/light.

the new ruger american gen 2s r nice shame the ranch was not 308
 
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Tikka T3 CTR
Accurate,
20" threaded barrel,
Decent adjustable trigger
Not ammo fussy,
Throw it in a chassis if your cheek doesnt fit.
 
Tikka T3x CTR everyday of the week.

Call Insite Arms and get a quote on installing a shorter barrel, then put your original Tikka barrel up for sale. If you want a different chassis then you can go that way instead and upgrade the barrel at a later date. That said, the factory setup is plenty accurate.
 
DeadShot519 said:
Howa superlite. Comes in at 4 pounds 7 ounces. Put on a lightweight optic. Factory barrel is 20”. Chop to 18” for weight saving and minimal velocity loss. Done
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I'm trying to convince myself this is " the ultimate" rifle for me and to just buy the damned thing instead of continually thinking it over, haha. There are things about it that make it less than perfect(no stainless or cerakote, no hinged floorplate mag), but it does seem like a gun I'd want to take with me everywhere. Not a great target gun though with a paper thin barrel.
 
Did you decide yet????

My ultimate rifle is my Browning X bolt micro composite (6.5cm). It’s not a chassis like a lot of the other suggestions, but I personally don’t like chassis ergonomics, or aluminum sucking the warmth from my hands in November.
X bolt micro composite:
-20 inch threaded barrel.
-7.75 pounds with Vortex Diamondback HP 4-16 with butler creek flip covers.
-the stock fits me well, technically a little shot on LOP, but I don’t notice, especially with hunting layers on.
-mine is very accurate, 0.75” groups with factory ammo, 0.5” groups with handloads. Cold bore first shot is always dead on.
-I had mine cerakoted, I love the added weather protection.
-I did add an Mcarbo trigger spring to get a 3 pound trigger pull, the factory spring stopped at 4 pounds.
-the factory recoil pad stunk like a rubber factory(still does, 5 years later!), I put a limbsaver that doesn’t stink on it.
-TANG SAFETY, man I love a good tang safety, so darned handy!
Price would probably be around $2000-2500 if I had to build one again tomorrow.

I have quite a few hunting rifles, that is always the one I grab when heading out, it’s kill count just keeps climbing.

I find the comb height perfect for me with a scope in low rings (my objective housing is almost touching the barrel). You’d have to see if it works for your cheek height though.

The major gripe would be there isn’t a lot of aftermarket support for Brownings, good thing they pretty much nailed it from the factory (for me anyways).

Oh, and I wouldn’t buy a Tikka in 308. All Tikka actions are long action. I wouldn’t carry around a long action rifle just to shoot a short action cartridge, personal preference.
 
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Rifleman87 said:
Did you decide yet????

My ultimate rifle is my Browning X bolt micro composite (6.5cm). It’s not a chassis like a lot of the other suggestions, but I personally don’t like chassis ergonomics, or aluminum sucking the warmth from my hands in November.
X bolt micro composite:
-20 inch threaded barrel.
-7.75 pounds with Vortex Diamondback HP 4-16 with butler creek flip covers.
-the stock fits me well, technically a little shot on LOP, but I don’t notice, especially with hunting layers on.
-mine is very accurate, 0.75” groups with factory ammo, 0.5” groups with handloads. Cold bore first shot is always dead on.
-I had mine cerakoted, I love the added weather protection.
-I did add an Mcarbo trigger spring to get a 3 pound trigger pull, the factory spring stopped at 4 pounds.
-the factory recoil pad stunk like a rubber factory(still does, 5 years later!), I put a limbsaver that doesn’t stink on it.
-TANG SAFETY, man I love a good tang safety, so darned handy!
Price would probably be around $2000-2500 if I had to build one again tomorrow.

I have quite a few hunting rifles, that is always the one I grab when heading out, it’s kill count just keeps climbing.

I find the comb height perfect for me with a scope in low rings (my objective housing is almost touching the barrel). You’d have to see if it works for your cheek height though.

The major gripe would be there isn’t a lot of aftermarket support for Brownings, good thing they pretty much nailed it from the factory (for me anyways).

Oh, and I wouldn’t buy a Tikka in 308. All Tikka actions are long action. I wouldn’t carry around a long action rifle just to shoot a short action cartridge, personal preference.
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haha, no havent pulled it on a rifle yet.

Im thinking ill wait and see what boxing day sales provides. So far if I see a Sig Cross on sale 98% ill get it lol.
 
Well boxing day was nice to me, I almost pulled it on the Bergara b14 HMR Carbon fiber it was on sale for about 2100... (I love bergaras lol)

BUT

I ended up picking up a Sako S20 Hunter .308 Win, 20" Fluted Barrel Threaded 5/8x24, 5rd Magazine,Special Edition Tungsten Barrel Cerakote




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Holy crap! You finally stopped fretting about it and just did it! Congrats! Nice deal, too. :)

I'm looking forward to hearing what you think. I'm a fan of the Sakos of days past, like the A-series; have been more and more underwhelmed by each new generation since then...but then I'm pretty much the same way with people, so...Laugh2Laugh2
 
Yea, lmfao. I had SO many people saying buy a tikka but they didnt have SO many of the features I wanted. When I saw this rifle it caught my eye, then the 600 bucks off was a no brain option.

Now to put an optic on it (Oh god let the pain begin again) lmfao
If anyone can think of an optic that goes from 2/4 up to 16 or higher, has a simple reticle, (Cross hair or mill) and has good features let me know!
Lookin at Vortex Optics, Razor HD LHT 3-15X50 SFP Rifle Scope, G4i Reticle, MRAD so far.
 
canadiankeeper said:
now to put an optic on it (oh god let the pain begin again)....
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NOOOOOOO!!!!!!:popCorn::bangHead::onCrack::runaway::nest:cou:ovrec:sok2f:P:2:G:f:P::)

I see what's gonna happen here. You will throw a temporary scope on that rifle now just to be able to shoot it while you mull over the possibilities for the "ideal" scope; that'll probably take a year or so.

Then you'll finally grab The Perfect Scope...but by then you will have realized that the Sako was not, in fact, The Perfect Rifle...and so the scope will sit on the shelf while we hash out The Perfect Rifle Mk II. That'll probably take us into late summer of 2025...

What I think you are missing here is that The Perfect Scope Mount is another facet of this project that can really make or break the end product, so...better hop to the research! :)
 
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jjohnwm said:
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!:popCorn::bangHead::onCrack::runaway::nest:cou:ovrec:sok2f:P:2:G:f:P::)

I see what's gonna happen here. You will throw a temporary scope on that rifle now just to be able to shoot it while you mull over the possibilities for the "ideal" scope; that'll probably take a year or so.

Then you'll finally grab The Perfect Scope...but by then you will have realized that the Sako was not, in fact, The Perfect Rifle...and so the scope will sit on the shelf while we hash out The Perfect Rifle Mk II. That'll probably take us into late summer of 2025...

What I think you are missing here is that The Perfect Scope Mount is another facet of this project that can really make or break the end product, so...better hop to the research! :)
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Luckily the S20 has picatinny mounts on the receiver so just need a quality ring
 
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