Is it truth the 22 mag is less accurate than the 22 LR. I would like to do punching papers until 200 yards. Somebody told me the 22lr is a tack driver in this rimefire rifle but the 22 Magnum have a better ballistics at 200 yards. I'm so confused
Help me to decide the caliber between a CZ 455 Varmint 22LR vs 22 Magnum
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camster
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If it's punching paper(target), or just plinking you're into then .22lr is what you want. The .22wmr does have more oomph, but that's the only true benefit. .22lr will allow you considerably cheaper bulk shooting fun, with availability of target grade ammo for when it's "serious".
A CZ is a mighty fine gem for slinging them from.
If 200+yds are what you're looking for the .22wmr will hit harder, but consider centerfire gems too...200yds with rimfire is a challenging thing (even with .17)
A CZ is a mighty fine gem for slinging them from.
If 200+yds are what you're looking for the .22wmr will hit harder, but consider centerfire gems too...200yds with rimfire is a challenging thing (even with .17)
JR Hartman
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.22mag will shoot much flatter. .22lrr will start to fall sooner, and will need much more compensation at 200m
go look up some ballistics charts, you will see bullet drops at various ranges. you will also see energy at each range with each bullet weight and out of what length of barrel.
.22mag performs better in nearly every spec. however, they are louder, more expensive, harder to find in large quantities and have way less firearms to shoot them in.
go look up some ballistics charts, you will see bullet drops at various ranges. you will also see energy at each range with each bullet weight and out of what length of barrel.
.22mag performs better in nearly every spec. however, they are louder, more expensive, harder to find in large quantities and have way less firearms to shoot them in.
pointandshoot
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Go price out a box of wmr then go buy your cz in 22lr...with the money you just saved you'll be able to pick yourself something in 223, 22-250, etc and keep the lead flying at even further distances.
It's a switch barrel gun ! Get both!
Talk with CZ dealers for a combo price, if that's out of the budget right now 22lr first so it's easier to save up for the 22 mag barrel .
Both have their place but it's definitely harder going out and plinking 500 22 mag rounds at $150+ then $30 for 500 22lr.
Talk with CZ dealers for a combo price, if that's out of the budget right now 22lr first so it's easier to save up for the 22 mag barrel .
Both have their place but it's definitely harder going out and plinking 500 22 mag rounds at $150+ then $30 for 500 22lr.
I wouldn't say the WMR is lesss accurate than LR. If you're varmint hunting, WMR should be your choice. LR and its inherent availability issues is why I only use WMR rifles. Magnum ammo has no such availability issues where I live. And you can do kill shots with magnum at further distances than LR. IMHO.
200 yard shooting would be easiest with the.... 17hmr! Check out the sticky ballistics chart for comparison. A .22mag would be fun as well.
.22lr at 200 yards is... challenging. If the wind is blowing it is VERY challenging to shoot anything resembling a respectable target.
I have a 455 with a .22 barrel and a .17hmr barrel. I find that swapping calibers takes 20 minutes- 10 of which is gathering the tools and making space. If you had a dedicated gunsmithing bench it would take 10 as everything is there and ready to go.
The zero for me is not 100% repeatable- but close. I personally have the scope zero'd for the .22lr at 50 yards and then know the offsets for the hmr barrel to be zero'ed at 100 yards. It is normally not perfect, when I swap I normally need a click or two to get zero back. I do the swap for the "special" times I am shooting the HMR as the .22 barrel lives on the rifle 90% of the time.
Just my $0.02
.22lr at 200 yards is... challenging. If the wind is blowing it is VERY challenging to shoot anything resembling a respectable target.
I have a 455 with a .22 barrel and a .17hmr barrel. I find that swapping calibers takes 20 minutes- 10 of which is gathering the tools and making space. If you had a dedicated gunsmithing bench it would take 10 as everything is there and ready to go.
The zero for me is not 100% repeatable- but close. I personally have the scope zero'd for the .22lr at 50 yards and then know the offsets for the hmr barrel to be zero'ed at 100 yards. It is normally not perfect, when I swap I normally need a click or two to get zero back. I do the swap for the "special" times I am shooting the HMR as the .22 barrel lives on the rifle 90% of the time.
Just my $0.02
If you want to do serious precision shooting with a rimfire: go with .22lr where you will find match quality ammo (eley, lapua, rws etc.)
But then, 200 yards is a bit far. In my book serious precision target shooting with a rimfire should be at 50 yards or 100 yards max.
Oh yes and a CZ 455 is a very good choice.
Gilbert
But then, 200 yards is a bit far. In my book serious precision target shooting with a rimfire should be at 50 yards or 100 yards max.
Oh yes and a CZ 455 is a very good choice.
Gilbert
Theoretically- but in practice I'm not sure many people could tell the difference. If you are talking crazy benchrest stuff and then you are dealing with heavy lapped barrels, precision chambers and heavy heavy rifles (and a CZ 455 won't be competitive). My HMR barrel is the heavy contour and my .22 is the tapered. Both shoot better than I do. Finding ammo that works the best in your rifle is the most important thing.
22 Mag .40gr CCI Maxi Mag are way more accurate in my 455 than any 22lr. I have both barrels. Hard to find quality 22lr ammo. Best 22lr so far are Winchester Power Points if you can find them. Most bulk 22lr ammo is crap for accuracy. I save my 22mag for gophers and none are safe up to 150yds. Even 200yds sometimes with my 12X scope. I find my 22mag CZ almost as accurate as a .17. Much more umph though.
No disrespect meant here but I have no trouble at all finding match grade .22lr ammo. SK and Lapua from Hirsch precision and Eley from Canada targets (both are CGN sponsors). Quality .22lr is MUCH more accurate than .22wmr. As a reference , suffice to say that Olympic rimfire shooters use .22lr
Gilbert
I'm a .22lr guy simply because the price for ammo is much cheaper and much quieter in most cases.
Do you want power and speed or simplicity and lower cost. Either round will punch paper and can be used for small game with equal success.
22mag would be better suited to longer 100+ meter varmint.
Do you want power and speed or simplicity and lower cost. Either round will punch paper and can be used for small game with equal success.
22mag would be better suited to longer 100+ meter varmint.
For punching paper at 200, I'd never even consider an LR. Even with a WMR or HMR, drop and drift is going to be significant.
For hunting small game, my old LR limited me to about 50 yards, but with the much flatter shooting WMR I can take them out well beyond 80. I'm talking head shots. Emphatic death.
Some people just like to make the bang sound as much as possible and put holes in paper, cans, whatever. That's the realm of LR.
For hunting small game, my old LR limited me to about 50 yards, but with the much flatter shooting WMR I can take them out well beyond 80. I'm talking head shots. Emphatic death.
Some people just like to make the bang sound as much as possible and put holes in paper, cans, whatever. That's the realm of LR.
OP~reading ballistics charts (vs. having experience) can be a bit frustrating, and probably confusing too....but....as someone who has allot of trigger time with both...NEITHER one is a good 200 yard shooter. That is, if accuracy matters. If you're experienced, have a great rifle/scope, know what ammo your kit likes to shoot best~SURE, give it a go if you're looking for something to do. If you're just starting out and someone has told you these 2 calibers are even decent 200 yard choices, you've been given some bad information. There is a big difference between a bullet being able to reach those distances, and reaching them with consistent/accurate results.
To the question specifically~it's been my experience that .22lr (once you figure out what ammo your gun likes) is more consistent, and more accurate than 22WMR~even when I've run 9 varieties of 22WMR ammo through 2 different rifles. Are they capable of consistent groups under 1" @ 100 yards? Not in my experience, but I'm sure some people have had different results. On the contrary, I've had great results from a couple of my 22s over the years, one of which is an Anschutz field gun. But, @ 100 yards, it takes very little wind to blow a standard velocity .22lr round off course. 22WMR has served me well as a hunting round out to 125 yards, and that's where 22WMR really shines if you ask me.
I get the desire to want to shoot @ 200 yards~I do it all the time. With a .223 or a .204 Ruger. I shoot my 22s @ 50 or 75 yards. Often closer, sometimes further.
To the question specifically~it's been my experience that .22lr (once you figure out what ammo your gun likes) is more consistent, and more accurate than 22WMR~even when I've run 9 varieties of 22WMR ammo through 2 different rifles. Are they capable of consistent groups under 1" @ 100 yards? Not in my experience, but I'm sure some people have had different results. On the contrary, I've had great results from a couple of my 22s over the years, one of which is an Anschutz field gun. But, @ 100 yards, it takes very little wind to blow a standard velocity .22lr round off course. 22WMR has served me well as a hunting round out to 125 yards, and that's where 22WMR really shines if you ask me.
I get the desire to want to shoot @ 200 yards~I do it all the time. With a .223 or a .204 Ruger. I shoot my 22s @ 50 or 75 yards. Often closer, sometimes further.
