Help with sale gone sour???
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If it has been over a month, he is not allowed to leave a negative...... If he does, the seller can get it removed...
I just went to the Savage Arms parts finder web page and I punched in the ser # G248617 and that ser#does not exist. I then punched in the the ser# G246617 and the parts schematic for a BVSS 22-250 popped up. I think you should give savage a call and inquire about the ser# that is on that gun. If that ser# does not exist then the only conclussion would be that the number was changed. If indeed it was changed it was prob changed for a reason. One main reason would be a stolen gun at some point.
It has NOT been over a month. I have Canada post tracking info to prove that.
I have lights in my basement and I make the money so I buy a gun if I want and discuss it with the GF if I want, I'm not getting into that at all here though , lol. I also inspect everything I buy thoroughly like I said earlier , just what you have to do these days man. I do agree with you defending your position , that's 100% fair. I'm not saying the stamp is good or bad just that it may have been a factory re-strike , I honestly don't know , my point is if you take the gun out and shoot it and everything is fine then to me the stamp thing is minor , like I said likely a factory error. My main point is expecting a return more than a couple weeks or so after isn't really realistic IMHO , YMMV. I have no dog in this fight and I'm sure your both solid guys so I'm not getting into a bickering match , he asked peoples opinion on a public forum and I chimed in.
I did the same thing with the same result, I would say that G246617 is the actual serial number. I have some doubts that anyone intentionally tried to change the 6 to an 8, it would be hard to do such a bad job of it....
However if I had bought the rifle I would call the CFO and check it out just to cover myself.
check out post #20, get it checked by the RCMP call in centre or the CPIC search site for stolen items.
Fair enough.. Then the time to act is now... Check the EE rules....
http://www.cpic-cipc.ca/index-eng.htm
Public access to stolen serial numbers, which is useful for checking such things.....
Public access to stolen serial numbers, which is useful for checking such things.....
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I had a Savage Milano 12 ga that had a crappy factory stamping for the serial number. It was the last digit & looked like it had been 'double tapped' with the taps overlapping each other. Looked terrible, but not as bad as the example in this specific issue.
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Jay
If it's been in the buyer's hands for more than a week, I would say he's S.O.L. That's more than enough time for a thorough inspection. A lot of sellers specify a 3-day non-firing inspection period, and I think that should be the general rule of thumb.
So I would like to know why everyone is sticking up for the seller? Like I had posted in post#23 I ran that ser# through the Savage data base and it does not exist. If you replace the 8 with a 6 then it comes up in the data base as a BVSS in 22-250 . So why was the original 6 restamped ( and a very ####ty restamp) with a 8? Well there is really only one reason I can think of.
How's about you clear these pictures from the site, delete this thread, and figure this out privately. The same way the gun was bought and sold. Understand the implications if this goes further than cgn.
...Selling for a friend, at an unheard of reduction in price, for a rifle that has a fubar serial number... No matter how you see it, it doesn't look good. That said, I'll bet it's a factory error, and one call should answer that. Until then, clear this sh!t out of here.
To the buyer, bringing up the pal thing is a douchebag move. It's irrelevant to your complaint. I'd look at your trader rating and believe we're good to go. The same rating that ironically includes, "defect, no refund" as your only strike against.
Op, unless you believe 100% that the buyer re-stamped the gun, buy it back.
...Selling for a friend, at an unheard of reduction in price, for a rifle that has a fubar serial number... No matter how you see it, it doesn't look good. That said, I'll bet it's a factory error, and one call should answer that. Until then, clear this sh!t out of here.
To the buyer, bringing up the pal thing is a douchebag move. It's irrelevant to your complaint. I'd look at your trader rating and believe we're good to go. The same rating that ironically includes, "defect, no refund" as your only strike against.
Op, unless you believe 100% that the buyer re-stamped the gun, buy it back.
Well.... We have more info now......
But it did take the buyer a long time to ask for his refund.....
I guess my question is, if you can see this thread and do what you did in a minute to check the serial number, why would the buyer not do the same?
The thing is in reality we don't know who stamped it ; factory screw up, seller, sellers buddy, buyer etc.. Therefore I can only comment on the fact that if the buyer noticed it in a reasonable amount of time he could have returned it possibly. And if the rifle functions fine and works as it should who's to say its not a factory screw up. Like I said no dog in this fight but you have to have SOLID proof of a manual re stamp by someone to say who is at fault in that situation. Buyer says seller must have did it , seller says buyer must have did it , someone says factory did it ....... you see where I'm going with this. Right or wrong if we don't know whats up with the stamp/number hence why I'm only commenting on the fact it could have been inspected and returned within a few days and that would have been that. Now all the seller has to say is the buyer must have done something with the number (don't know why he would but that's how legal sh!t goes) and the buyer says he got it like that and its a he said she said legal fiasco. In that case I doubt anyone gets anything except the gun taken by cops and maybe charges , lol.
Been following this thread..... she's a good one, may need Judge Judy on this one. When ever I sell something I disclose all known issues, if a gun misfeeds on certain ammo, has a scratch etc etc, never want a buyer to think I'm trying to deceive or sell something that I just want to "get rid of". How is it that the seller wasn't aware of the bad serial number ?. At the same time if I was the buyer I would have noticed the bad serial number within a half hour of receiving it. Advising the seller weeks later, asking for a refund is outside what I would say is acceptable. So now we have two apparently reputable people and a problem. Two people who could have done things better. If I was the buyer I would let the seller know I was contacting the RCMP to check the number to see if its a "wanted" gun. Then the seller will have to decide, given the reason he sold it, for himself or a buddy, and if he would rather take it back or be open to an investigation by the RCMP. If its a legit gun,, not "wanted", then all are happy. If its stolen then one is under the microscope and another is out bucks. My guess is, it must not be stolen, if it was the seller wouldn't be on here divulging his story, he would just be offering to take it back. My 2 cents anyway
the original serial # is also electro stencilled and not stamped in.
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