HEY Bring back the AR 180B !!!!!!!!!!!

Anything new might be subject to mis-classification.
What about making an offer to Armalite to either sell the current tooling or to set it up in Canada?

Seriously.
 
What is stopping someone from producing AR180b rifles in Canada with billet lowers and uppers? If it's an exact copy but made out of aluminum instead of polymer and stamped steel would it even need to be re-classified? This is a honest question. I will produce complete rifles if there is no legal ramifications.
 
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What is stopping someone from producing AR180b rifles in Canada with billet lowers and uppers? If it's an exact copy but made out of aluminum instead of polymer and stamped steel would it even need to be re-classified? This is a honest question. I will produce complete rifles if there is no legal ramifications.

Only AR180b rifles by Armalite fall under that particular FRT. Any new ones will not.
 
Ok so I guess I just have to get my hand on one. Change a couple things like add a buffer tube and make the upper and lower out of aluminum. Send it in and wait 4 years. Not much to lose but some machine time and material.
Thanks for the info
 
Ok so I guess I just have to get my hand on one. Change a couple things like add a buffer tube and make the upper and lower out of aluminum. Send it in and wait 4 years. Not much to lose but some machine time and material.
Thanks for the info
What you might lose it is triggering a revaluation of all AR180B rifles, like we had with the Cz858.
 
Is that why it hasn't been done? Is reclassification of old AR-180B's a realistic possibility? Because it seems like if someone made new AR180B rifles, they would sell like hot cakes. I don't want to be the one to ruin it for everyone but I'd love a decently priced non-restricted ARish platform.
 
Pizz off the Libs in power with a majority, and you could find all semis on the prohib list. After all, they're not needed for hunting or target shooting.
 
If you want a metal lower stick to buying a good used 180B-2 and order a Nodak aluminum lower. Quality product and already has an FRT #. Stormwerkz makes adapters for whatever kind of stock you would want pretty much. A little more expensive but a safer option in the long run.
 
Is that why it hasn't been done? Is reclassification of old AR-180B's a realistic possibility? Because it seems like if someone made new AR180B rifles, they would sell like hot cakes. I don't want to be the one to ruin it for everyone but I'd love a decently priced non-restricted ARish platform.

The non-restricted FRT is for the Armalite AR180B. The Daeo rifle would be treated as a brand new design. It is very possible they would claim it a variant of the prohibited AR180. Your insistance that it is a variant of the non-restricted rifle would make them look at those guns again and most likey change their classification as has happened before.

This is the situation that was told to industry members by the RCMP techs.
 
The reason the Nodak lowers are getting in is they are directly advertised as a replacement for the polymer AR180B. You create a new rifle and they start from the beginning. They will make it a variant and prohibited.

The FRT for the Nodak NDS-18s lower is listed with matching barrel lengths for the AR180b... and the AR180 uppers. They took into consideration that it fits both sets of uppers. As a result the NDS-18s has non-restricted and restricted FRT numbers under that parent entry. The FRT isn't posted as a stripped lower, but as complete rifles.

As it takes the same trigger group as the 180b, and not the 180, it is listed as non-restricted as a stripped lower just as the 180b is.

The 462mm barreled uppers are listed as restricted. 18.19 inch AR180 uppers.
The 490mm barreled uppers are listed as non-restricted. 19.29 inch AR180B uppers.

Same FRT entry for Nodak Spud "lowers". They cross referenced the Nodak lower FRT to the AR180 and AR180B entries. There are very much aware of what fits. That didn't prevent them from going ahead with a NR classification as a "replacement for the AR-180B molded polymer receiver/frame". Their words...
 
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Being a direct replacement for the polymer lower was likely a major factor in the Nodak lower. How ever, making an entirely new, complete rifle is where the issue lies.
 
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