Hi Point Carbines - Facelift!

mysticplayer said:
unlimited mag capacity????? NOPe mag is 9rds only. How's that for ironic?
Nooooo nonono no, I meant no magazine capacity limits for rimfires in general, not this specific rifle. I doubt there are any aftermarket magazines available for Excel rifles, so I'd either have to make one or try to find someone to make one for me. I've got one on the go right now for my junkpile Norinco JW-27, it's about 50% done, so it's not exactly rocket science (if I can do it, it's not rocket science!).

Anyway, you make an excellent point, big dollars and no aftermarket support. I just like the way they look, they're so snazzy :D
 
Quite the thread here! As this is about opinions I would say pass and go with an SKS or 10/22 if you want a fun cheap plinker. Most of the reviews on these I have read have been quite negative.
 
I think TW25B is referring to our friends to the south who have the luxury of fewer restrictions, well atleast in some states.

Oh, and I KNOW its ugly. From Reaper's personal experience and the reviews I've read online, they're unreliable crap too.

CF
 
They are NOT a combat weapon and are at the bottom of the heap in the BR world. So what? Plinking is fun too. If it jams, the paper target won't object.
 
Last edited:
sorry deckard, for some reason i thought you owned one because the pics you have been including look like personal digital snaps. i still would like to know the frequency of jamming for hi point as that is one of the biggest conciderations one would have to concider prior to purchase.
 
For what it is worth, several mags discuss the HiPoint. All give it 100% function rating over several hundred rds fired. In fact, the pistols also get very high marks.

Biased, paid advertising, or maybe some slandering on other posts or just a bad batch. Who knows...Many dealers carry them and they must sell quite well. Company has survived for a number of years.

Total crap doesn't last that long.

As to the Mech Tech Carbine, I have one in 45ACP and love it. Function is 100% if I don't screw up the ammo. Accuracy is fantastic (SG shells are easy at 45yds if you can hold it). Even has the AR boing when you shoot it. A lot of fun and cheaper to shoot then even the SKS (I cast my own bullets). Very nice quality barrel that loves my cast bullets.

About as attractive as the Hi Point though. If you have a Glock or 1911 and want to add a carbine, I can recommend them.

Stock fit is super goofy though and you need very high rings for a scope. Mount a dot and have at it.

Jerry
 
CF:
It is possible that we already have the good, expensive guns, we are bored, and have money to burn. Thanks for caring though. We really have more on the line. I bet if I buy one I have 100 people lined up to say, "I told you so!" But my ego can survive a 1000 such comments.

I should point out that the 9mm carbine, has given rise to the .40 carbine and soon to come out a .45 version. This has been a process over 10 years.

They are the ugliest gun on the market for sure. But the Facelift is not bad. On the one I examined, the sights were really good, but I would go for the rail with backup sights.

Gun Tests has tested it. You know, they accept NO advertising from gun companies, so they are not like Guns & Ammo. They test and have the full page ad on the next page.
http://www.gun-tests.com/pub/14_2/features/4989-1.html

So how is it built? The plastic parts are screwed together. Have I seen that before?
 
Last edited:
Deckard,
I guess if you really have money to burn than why not. Personally I'd spend the money on more ammo for my current toys(the high quality expensive ones) and further my skills. However I can't fault anyone for wanting another toy to play with. Everyone has their "must have" list and proclaim they'll only own those. We all know it never turns out like that.

CF
 
sorry deckard, for some reason i thought you owned one because the pics you have been including look like personal digital snaps. i still would like to know the frequency of jamming for hi point as that is one of the biggest conciderations one would have to concider prior to purchase.

There's a reason for that -- those pictures were taken for my publication and hotlinked here without attribution. I reviewed the Hi Point 9mm carbine in my magazine, The Martialist. The original test was out of the box and appears here:

http://themartialist.com/0604/hipoint.htm

Some time later I borrowed that same Hi Point to take a four-hour carbine class with it (through Progressive F.O.R.C.E. Concepts). Most everyone there was running AR15s, some of them sporting a wild assortment of gear and supporting vests and rigs. One fellow had an AK (complete with barrel-clamp-Brinkman MaxFire flashlight!), one fellow had a Ruger Mini 14 (at least I think it was a 14 and not a 30), and one fellow even had a Beretta Storm (which seemed to give him quite a few problems -- worth considering for anyone contemplating the Storm).

I ran, for the whole class (expending something like 300-400 rounds), that Hi Point 9mm carbine with a magazine carrier on the buttstock and two extra mags stuck in the pockets of my 5.11 vest. Would you believe that ugly cheap gun worked and worked and kept on working, giving me no problems? I had one malfunction -- ironically, during a failure to fire drill! -- when the last round in the magazine didn't strip out of the mag and got stuck in it, leaving me with nothing to do but change out the almost empty magazine. The rest of the time that Hi Point just kept chowing down on Winchester White Box with nary a complaint. I don't think the barrel got completely cool for, like, two and a half hours, as during that time it never had the chance to go unused for long enough to manage it.

carbineclass01.jpg


Now, the gun does have some very rough edges and I cut up my hands pretty good on the gun and the magazines over the course of the class. That buttstock carrier also did me no favors during some of the less standard fighting positions, as it proved awkward on one side. Still, the weapon performed remarkably well (and, as I said, outperformed the Beretta Storm that was its closest equivalent).
 
Last edited:
Anyone else with access to FRT tables is this the correct FRT below? Is this prohib? Anyone else see these Carbines in Canada?

HiPoint FRT#31525

From the FRT:
- This firearm, as it left the factory, is fitted with a "bull-pup" stock ("Prohibited Device" PDR, Part 4, para. 2). When the "bull-pup" stock ("Prohibited Device" PDR, Part 4, para. 2) is removed the receiver/frame or complete barrelled action of the firearm may be correctly classified as "Restricted".
 
Back
Top Bottom