high point

I mean no disrespect, and I freely admit that I do NOT know everything about everything, but...

In 20+ years of enthusiastic immersion in the world of shooting products, I have never heard of "hi point" firearms. I shall have to have a google!

Neal
 
Is this what you are talking about?

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Weight: 35 oz.
Frame: High-impact polymer
Finish: Black powder coat with polished sides
Capacity: 9-shot magazine
Sights: 3-dots, fully-adjustable rear sight

All Hi-Point handguns feature: Barrel length: 4"


Polymer frame

Durable, attractive easy-grip finish

Last round lock open

Quick on-off thumb safety

Operations safety sheet

+P rated

Free extra rear peep sight

Free trigger lock

Lifetime warranty

45ACP Black $186.00
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From what I've read they all have 4.5" barrels, not 4".

I've also read that the lifetime warranty is important because they tend to break. Some reviews are good. Some are very bad. It's a cheap gun.
 
I saw a brand new Hi Point in .45ACP (like the one above) at a gunstore in Montana this weekend for.... $129!!!!

Call me skeptical, but I wouldn't trust a $130 gun with +p ammo in in... I'm sure it works, but DANG is it an ugly POS.
 
I contacted the firm a couple years ao asking about the carbine (it was very well reviewed in gun tests) for a fun plinker. They were, how could I put it, "sketched" about selling to canada. I'm sure if a quality importer (like Can Am maybe) worked with them they might ship. The Hi-point carbine would be a real inexpensive alternative to the beretta storm and is supposed to be reliable and accurate you could probably retail them in canada for less than $400. ATI even makes a beretta storm-ish stock for it.
 
Clobbersauras said:
I contacted the firm a couple years ao asking about the carbine (it was very well reviewed in gun tests) for a fun plinker. They were, how could I put it, "sketched" about selling to canada. I'm sure if a quality importer (like Can Am maybe) worked with them they might ship. The Hi-point carbine would be a real inexpensive alternative to the beretta storm and is supposed to be reliable and accurate you could probably retail them in canada for less than $400. ATI even makes a beretta storm-ish stock for it.
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You're kidding right?? The only goal of Hi Point firearms is to convince some poor sucker to buy their products. Their pistols are crap and I'm betting their rifles aren't any different. The "positive review" in the gun rags is merely lip service paid out by some clown who was given a free rifle and still needed an article to publish. Coming out and calling the rifle crap. Doesn't fill two pages in the latest issue. Come to think of it. When was the last time you ever read a negative review in a gun rag??? Right, never...

TDC
 
Wow, anyone else ever seen an e-port that low on the slide, or an external exactor that thin? Looks like the style department took over the engineering department and then went on an ether binge.
 
I fondled their pistols at SHOT, I can't say I went away impressed, I think the Norinco's are a better deal. Although I admit that some of the reviews on various web boards in the US by owners say that that seem to function ok and a number of people carry them as Backup guns.
 
TDC said:
You're kidding right?? The only goal of Hi Point firearms is to convince some poor sucker to buy their products. Their pistols are crap and I'm betting their rifles aren't any different. The "positive review" in the gun rags is merely lip service paid out by some clown who was given a free rifle and still needed an article to publish. Coming out and calling the rifle crap. Doesn't fill two pages in the latest issue. Come to think of it. When was the last time you ever read a negative review in a gun rag??? Right, never...

TDC
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I'm hoping you have enough knowledge and experience to write a book about Hi-Point with a review like that.

Ugly, yes. But do they work? I've heard they do from many people. Just because something is ugly doesn't means it's worthless.

Not to mention that they are made in the US and I'd buy a Hi-Point just to support the American economy as opposed to sending more money China's way.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. That's the reason I don't own a Chinese gun.

When was the last time you heard of something quality being made in China?

That's what I thought.
 
if someone got them in to canada i would buy them IF the price stayed close to the us price. no way i would drop 400-500 on them. made cheap sold cheap but if its fun at the range, then who cares.
 
targettarget said:
I'm hoping you have enough knowledge and experience to write a book about Hi-Point with a review like that.

Ugly, yes. But do they work? I've heard they do from many people. Just because something is ugly doesn't means it's worthless.

Not to mention that they are made in the US and I'd buy a Hi-Point just to support the American economy as opposed to sending more money China's way.

If you don't like it, don't buy it. That's the reason I don't own a Chinese gun.

When was the last time you heard of something quality being made in China?

That's what I thought.
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Take a look around. No self respecting LE agency, Military, or competitive shooter owns or uses Hi Point products. They retail for less than the cost of a good belt and holster. For some, that's called a clue..

No where did I promote or proclaim that I would purchase a Chinese built firearm. That being said, the Norinco products are light years ahead of the Hi-Point crap. If you read my signature line you'll see where my money goes, and it isn't to China.

The aesthetics of a firearm are not my concern. I don't purchase firearms based on their appearance. I look for reliability, quality construction, and ergonomics. The "reviews" printed in the monthly rags are nothing more than one guys personal opinion. Again, their opinions are often slanted thanks to free product. Those companies who offer quality products will naturally rise to the top. Hi Point is not one of those companies.

TDC
 
TDC said:
Take a look around. No self respecting LE agency, Military, or competitive shooter owns or uses Hi Point products. They retail for less than the cost of a good belt and holster. For some, that's called a clue..

No where did I promote or proclaim that I would purchase a Chinese built firearm. That being said, the Norinco products are light years ahead of the Hi-Point crap. If you read my signature line you'll see where my money goes, and it isn't to China.

The aesthetics of a firearm are not my concern. I don't purchase firearms based on their appearance. I look for reliability, quality construction, and ergonomics. The "reviews" printed in the monthly rags are nothing more than one guys personal opinion. Again, their opinions are often slanted thanks to free product. Those companies who offer quality products will naturally rise to the top. Hi Point is not one of those companies.

TDC
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Do a search on the Hi -point carbine - have a look at some of the forums. It seems you value the information found in a forum judging by your # of posts. It is actually fairly highly regarded for what it is....A FUN PLINKER.

Gun Tests is also one of the better "rags" it doesn't take advertising and it's reviews state what they found during their evaluation nothing more. Yes, they do give bad reviews - all the time. You've obviously never read the publication.

Now, would I buy a Hi Point Pistol - NO - but would I buy a hi point carbine as a fun plinker - Yes - if the price was right....

Edit: Oh yeah - I forgot - Gun Tests did do a review on a high point pistol...they hated it and gave it a horible review. I seem to recall that it functioned flawlessly but it was so obnoxious they couldn't continue the evaluation. Then they tested the carbine and gave it a best buy rating....
 
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TDC said:
Take a look around. No self respecting LE agency, Military, or competitive shooter owns or uses Hi Point products. They retail for less than the cost of a good belt and holster. For some, that's called a clue..

No where did I promote or proclaim that I would purchase a Chinese built firearm. That being said, the Norinco products are light years ahead of the Hi-Point crap. If you read my signature line you'll see where my money goes, and it isn't to China.

The aesthetics of a firearm are not my concern. I don't purchase firearms based on their appearance. I look for reliability, quality construction, and ergonomics. The "reviews" printed in the monthly rags are nothing more than one guys personal opinion. Again, their opinions are often slanted thanks to free product. Those companies who offer quality products will naturally rise to the top. Hi Point is not one of those companies.

TDC
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It's all good.

I would buy one, pistol or carbine just to piss around with. I'm always cheering for the underdog and Hi-point is the underdog of underdog. That being said, they are at least made in the US and carry a lifetime warranty.

The only problem with them is that by the time you got it here, it would be twice or more the price of the same gun in the US. For $120, I'd get one. For $300, I'd leave it on the shelf and put that money toward something decent. With Glocks now $600 and change, why in the hell would anybody drop money on a Hi-Point (pistol at least) when you could eat KD for another month and get a Glock?

Than again, with the price of pasta and rice these days...KD might become a luxury item. :rolleyes:
 
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