Hmmmmm, Shooting Chrony?

I have had a couple of chronographs , green and I think a red one, one also had a printer system , to print shots and velocity, now have a LabRadar , it still works okay, it defiantly helps me in reloading, also wouldn’t be without one, Would like a garmin but not enough income to afford one , so I will work with my LabRadar .
I couldn't imagine reloading without a chronograph. I have never been without one for the last 23 years
 
But to say they're required for reloading is false. Most people don't load to the max. Maybe for long range and want to know velocity. But can easy make a data chart by shooting at each range and making a dope chart. Still plenty of people that use the pen and paper method.

Personally i dont care what i dont care has to say.
I have been loading now for 47 years, my wife just bought me a Caldwell chronograph last year.

Did I need one? Nope. But always wanted one......:)

I sure like those fancy Garmin ones and the Labradar models, but way too much money in my opinion.
 
We had a Chrony and an Oehler set up one day and the Chrony gave identical velocity to the much more expensive Oehler, which we thought was pretty funny. Chrony was great for it's time.
Struck me as a fantastic piece of technology when I discovered them. For the princely sum of about $90 I bought the basic model, and marveled at how I could get such a precision instrument of great usefulness so affordably!

I forget the different models, but I recall that a fella phoned in about the Beta Master model, but he mixed up the name, and I recall the gal hanging up on him!🫢😅
 
I have been loading now for 47 years, my wife just bought me a Caldwell chronograph last year.

Did I need one? Nope. But always wanted one......:)

I sure like those fancy Garmin ones and the Labradar models, but way too much money in my opinion.
I always thought the expense was rather high for the little bit extra convenience myself.

Maybe for guys that use theirs much more than I do, it's worth it. But for myself: I didn't view having a little bit more set up time, or walking back and forth a couple times as a great hardship. Rather fortunate, that I had something that fellas a while back couldn't have dreamed of!
 
I always thought the expense was rather high for the little bit extra convenience myself.

Maybe for guys that use theirs much more than I do, it's worth it. But for myself: I didn't view having a little bit more set up time, or walking back and forth a couple times as a great hardship. Rather fortunate, that I had something that fellas a while back couldn't have dreamed of!
Indeed, same for me.
 
The average person does not need one.
If you are a competitor, long range shooter etc then yes you need one to keep track of your fps.
Every time I set up my Chrony beta, I swear at it, and then I swear at it again if the sun or cloud conditions change. ( most times ) The few times I have used a range members Garmin……it’s just so easy.
 
But to say they're required for reloading is false. Most people don't load to the max. Maybe for long range and want to know velocity. But can easy make a data chart by shooting at each range and making a dope chart. Still plenty of people that use the pen and paper method.

Personally i dont care what i dont care has to say.
100% in agreement on this. You can even use your drop data to find out your ballpark velocity with programs such as jbm (iirc) if you really get curious.
 
I got the basic, cheapest Chrony back when they came out. Loved it for what it was. It had one quirk, though. It would never, ever report the first shot through it, and if I let it sit too long without putting a shot through it then it would again not report the first shot. Being the cheapskate that I am I would have my Ruger 10/22 on the bench and every now and then put a shot down range through the screens just to keep it going. One day it simply stopped working but it owed me nothing. Provided accurate info to me at a time when I couldn’t afford a better unit. It also clued in me and a lot of guys who had (name hotshot caliber) rifles that would supposedly do (name insane speed). No, actually, they didn’t do that insane speed. It did, however prove how insanely efficient my 375 Whelen Improved was. Speeds only a few hundred fps behind a H&H with an alarmingly low spread in fps. I may get a Garmin but if I could buy a new, good Chrony again for a hundred bucks I’d whip out my credit card, fast.
 
The average person does not need one.
If you are a competitor, long range shooter etc then yes you need one to keep track of your fps.
Every time I set up my Chrony beta, I swear at it, and then I swear at it again if the sun or cloud conditions change. ( most times ) The few times I have used a range members Garmin……it’s just so easy.
Get rid of that POS and just buy a Garmin and you be a HAPPY 😃 shooter . 👍 RJ
 
It's only better than the Labradar, "for my purposes" simply because of bulk.

You're the one who included the LX.
I did, because that's the relevant comparision, and for clarity (LabRadar V1, or Lab
Radar LX?).
As for the LabradarLX, I don't know much about them, other than what I've seen in the videos. They appear to be very similar to the Garmin in size and function.

You should buy one and compare them, then report back.
I've considered buying an AndiScan A3 for that purpose, but time and money aren't free. I've used Garmin Xero C1s with good results.

As for comparing C1 and LX, it's been done multiple times on the internet. Here is one from a Canada's top PRS shooter:
 
Then why ask? if you already had your answer?

Maybe you were looking for more input? understandable, but I can't give you any because I've never used the unit you "included" after the fact.

Sorry I can't help you and thanx for including the video, much appreciated and very interesting.
 
GARMIN, well maybe the LABRADAR version of it. It helps when I'm at the range and I get an extreme flier, I look at my chrony and I see if its the round or the nut at the trigger. I'm starting to slide from "reloader" to "serious reloader," but I'm working towards long range shooting 1km+ though. To do that means consistent loading, each time. I can turn out ammo good to 700m on my Dillons, bit it's powder dropper isn't consistent enough to get 1 MOA beyond that IMO. By using my chrony I know I'm getting 20ish FPS out of my single staged ammo, but more out of my progressives.
 
The average person does not need one.
If you are a competitor, long range shooter etc then yes you need one to keep track of your fps.
Every time I set up my Chrony beta, I swear at it, and then I swear at it again if the sun or cloud conditions change. ( most times ) The few times I have used a range members Garmin……it’s just so easy.
I agree. Once I dialed in a load for a particular firearm, that was it. Kept very detailed notes for reference and the Chrony gathered dust. Glad I have it but in my circumstance, it does have a finite use.

I can recall setting up at the range, what a process! :rolleyes:
 
I agree. Once I dialed in a load for a particular firearm, that was it. Kept very detailed notes for reference and the Chrony gathered dust.
With an optical chronograph, that's how most people use them, for obvious reasons.

With a small radar chronography (AndiScan A3, Garmin Xero C1, Labradar LX), many people - including me - just set the chronograph down beside the rifle while shooting. On a warm / cold day you'll know the correct velocity (necessary for longer-range shooting) for ballistics; on a regular day you gather extra data. And little things like, "was that flyer me, or the ammo?".
 
A Chrony is the only pressure gauge most of us have. " Opps, that's too fast. " Most often I'm looking for velocity to match drops. But the problem comes in obsolete cartridges like even the 30-06, where manual data is a bit on the light side. Or my 6.5x55 in a Zastava action. Or semi-wildcats like the 338-06. When I did load development for it I found the data to be unrealistic, unavailable or to be all over the place (a 225gr is 2650)

I have $65 refurbished Shooting Chrony and a pencil. I did nick one of the rods but 5/32 welding rod is the right size.
 
If you want to use a Chrony, that' fine with me. I honestly don't care, but many of the replies in this thread are from people who believe their "circumstances" are universal.

For the person with a "few" firearms developing a "few" loads or comparing loads, etc, all of the older units, no matter what they deduce the velocity from, will be just fine, and if you're happy with the results, all is well.

I just really dislike that I often had to take the firearms out again, to a longer range, to verify velocities given by the units, by measuring bullet drop at given ranges, once the accuracy node was found.

Depending on the firearm's intended use, accurate readings only needed to be close enough to allow me to anticipate "drop" out to 300yds. Many folks require much more.

Usually when I go to the range, I have a half dozen rifles which I'm working up loads for, or comparing loads with different bullets in the same rifle for.

This is handy if the rifle is going to be used for different hunting purposes, say Coyotes vs Bears, vs Deer or Elk, etc. Then I record the info in a small notebook kept with the particular batch of ammunition, pertaining to scope adjustments to get the rifle shooting that particular load where I want it to, without having to make another trip to the range to dial in the different load.

The Chrony was OK, but not nearly as reliable, especially for the extended ranges which often occur when shooting at Coyotes with a 4-7 inch cross section under the fur.

It doesn't matter if it's a bright day, dull day or raining, the Garmin is consistent.

I used it yesterday, very dreary, just above "0" temps to check a couple of hunting loads in two different rifles, which were developed last summer, with powders new to me. Monolithic 120 grain TTSX bullets over H100V, in both 6.5 and 284 diameter. I wanted to check how much velocity drop there was between 23C and 0C. It was a good feeling to be able to "trust" the very consistent velocity recordings, without worrying how much difference was due to light quality.

I got by with the Chrony for decades, but it always left me wanting "something better"

Cost of the Labradar and it's bulk didn't seem to offer enough, when I saw them being used at the range and had a couple of opportunities to be able to compare them with the Chrony. So, I settled for "close enough" which in 95% of the situations was more than what was needed.

If a Chrony is what you can afford, the only unit available to you, or you just can't handle putting out $700 for a Garmin. I'm fine with that.

Paul T, first mentioned the Garmin to me and he had morphed to using a Labradar from a Chrony a couple of years previously. Then he went to the Garmin and now is selling or has sold his Labradar. What motivated him, just like myself, was ease of carry/use. He often takes several firearms to test loads as well.

That's how it is with firearms and accessories, etc. If it were all about "need" we would all have a 30-06 made by the same company or even a 303 British, or whatever with one bullet weight at a given velocity.

Luckily, we aren't bound by that parameter YET.
 
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