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For those who belong to Gun Clubs that have a holster course or holster qualification course, what does it consist of ?

We're looking at offering to our member a holster course (not a mandatory one) where this would be covered:

-equipement
-proper use of holster: unholster/holster a firearm
-trigger discipline: static&move
-immediate actions: mag changes&malfunction
-shooting positions
-confirmation stage: either a small IPSC stage or a police style shooting qualification

If this was offered in your Club, would you be interested ?

Ammo count: 200-300
Cost: 20-25$ including a lunch and goodies at the end (attendance prizes)

The main goal is to provide something to our members who dont necessary want to do IPSC/BB but want to learn more about pistol shooting and using a holster.

Yes ? No ?

Feedback and suggestions are more than welcome
#####ing and moaning: go polute another thread please
 
DT741 said:
For those who belong to Gun Clubs that have a holster course or holster qualification course, what does it consist of ?

We're looking at offering to our member a holster course (not a mandatory one) where this would be covered:

-equipement
-proper use of holster: unholster/holster a firearm
-trigger discipline: static&move
-immediate actions: mag changes&malfunction
-shooting positions
-confirmation stage: either a small IPSC stage or a police style shooting qualification

If this was offered in your Club, would you be interested ?

Ammo count: 200-300
Cost: 20-25$ including a lunch and goodies at the end (attendance prizes)

The main goal is to provide something to our members who dont necessary want to do IPSC/BB but want to learn more about pistol shooting and using a holster.

Yes ? No ?

Feedback and suggestions are more than welcome
#####ing and moaning: go polute another thread please
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That's a great idea if it could run in my area Ottawa / Gatineau
 
Sounds a lot like a cross between an IDPA Orientation course and a small Black Badge.

We do a very similar thing here called CASE or Competency And Safety Examination for our TAC Rifle group but for semi auto rifles, except our “ Confirmation Stage” is a Pass/Fail final exam.

Your offering is more than just a simple holster course as it offers movement and malfunction drills etc.

I think it’s an AWESOME idea and it should go really well with the membership.
The price point and round count is great also.
 
We offer a similar one day clinic. Apart from the strong safety component, we focus on how to effectively engage the target(s) under varying circumstances.
 
DT741 said:
For those who belong to Gun Clubs that have a holster course or holster qualification course, what does it consist of ?

We're looking at offering to our member a holster course (not a mandatory one) where this would be covered:

-equipement
-proper use of holster: unholster/holster a firearm
-trigger discipline: static&move
-immediate actions: mag changes&malfunction
-shooting positions
-confirmation stage: either a small IPSC stage or a police style shooting qualification

If this was offered in your Club, would you be interested ?

Ammo count: 200-300
Cost: 20-25$ including a lunch and goodies at the end (attendance prizes)

The main goal is to provide something to our members who dont necessary want to do IPSC/BB but want to learn more about pistol shooting and using a holster.

Yes ? No ?

Feedback and suggestions are more than welcome
#####ing and moaning: go polute another thread please
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IS the goal to just teach them how to use a holster for transporting a pistol at the range, or is the goal to prepare them for an action shooting or a self defense scenario?

HOlster use can be taught in about 20 minutes. Tactical/Defensive pistol is something else. Sport use again is different.

Deciding specifically what you want this course to be will help you hone in on what you want to cover. Also, deciding WHO you are marketing the course to.

Does someone at your club have experience in training development or instructional design? Developing course format? ALl of the content you would want to cover is already out there, but the key to putting together a good course is the packing, format and schedule. And the personalities of the people teaching.
 
Course is aimed at using a holster safely/properly and preparing/introducing for action shooting. Some might want to pursue and get their BB to compete in IPSC. Mail goal here is safe fun.

We want to keep it "shooting sport" orientated and the course will be marketed to our general membership who often buy pistols and holster and are self taught on youtube (good and bad) and dont necessary want to jump in with BB/IPSC but want to gain some proficiency in using a holstered pistol platform.

For staff and instruction, I belong to Valcartier's gun club. We have a lot of Small Arms qualified instructors within our membership, as well as Police Use of Force, some multicam wearing members ans active IPSC shooters. We have ran carbine courses and CQB Clinics in the past.

The pistol&holster course comes from a demand from our membership. Just looking at what is being done across the country to put out the best shooting package we can offer as far as content.
 
We have been batting around the idea for an in house course vs. bringing in BB instructors. What keeps popping up is this.

What qualifications, training or experience do the instructors have that enables them to teach the course? or more to the point, protect the club from potential scrutiny in the 'what if' scenario of there to be an incident.

IME in house courses are generally established to satisfy those who want to use holsters but don't want to spend the time or money involved in the existing structured and accepted courses, and more times than not 'trained' by people who have no qualifications of their own, who similarly avoided the BB or similar time consuming or expensive options. I don't know how rare it is, but in 25 plus years of participating in shooting sports there seems to be no end of people claiming to be instructors, or offering to train people, and yet have no official quals of their own.

There is also the school of thought that certification isn't required at all, and that training to use a holster is unnecessary.

An Ontario range presented to me an "introduction to action shooting' course that is similar to what you suggest, and it was put forward by IPSC and IDPA certified shooters and seemed quite reasonable, and they could fall back on the qualifications they had earned in the full length courses they had taken...

Just a personal opinion, and may be unpopular, but if someone claims to be interested in action shooting, why would they not be interested in taking an official Action Shooting course....? I would say if you want to join the pack of holster wearing mag dropping fast shooting jockeys then demonstrate your commitment and take the course? As a provider of courses and facilities I can't tell you how many people approach me saying they would like to join in with our club's action shooting, and then tell me they have no interest in taking the required course.

I do understand they can be hard to access and may involve travel and waiting lists, and I appreciate that is part of the conversation.
 
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DT741 said:
Course is aimed at using a holster safely/properly and preparing/introducing for action shooting. Some might want to pursue and get their BB to compete in IPSC. Mail goal here is safe fun.

We want to keep it "shooting sport" orientated and the course will be marketed to our general membership who often buy pistols and holster and are self taught on youtube (good and bad) and dont necessary want to jump in with BB/IPSC but want to gain some proficiency in using a holstered pistol platform.

For staff and instruction, I belong to Valcartier's gun club. We have a lot of Small Arms qualified instructors within our membership, as well as Police Use of Force, some multicam wearing members ans active IPSC shooters. We have ran carbine courses and CQB Clinics in the past.

The pistol&holster course comes from a demand from our membership. Just looking at what is being done across the country to put out the best shooting package we can offer as far as content.
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Can I ask where these Small Arms instructors and use of force trainers got their certification?..maybe there are some untapped resources we aren't looking at in our area.
 
smally21 said:
...if someone claims to be interested in action shooting, why would they not be interested in taking an official Action Shooting course....? I would say if you want to join the pack of holster wearing mag dropping fast shooting jockeys then demonstrate your commitment and take the course? As a provider of courses and facilities I can't tell you how many people approach me saying they would like to join in with our club's action shooting, and then tell me they have no interest in taking the required course...
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For a guy who has been around since 2009, you seem to be remarkably ignorant of all of the past threads about the IPSC Canada Black Badge course. Haven't you read them? (To sum up: some like it, some don't. Some are in favour of mandatory 'holster training', some aren't.)

This topic has been beaten to death.
 
Wendell said:
For a guy who has been around since 2009, you seem to be remarkably ignorant of all of the past threads about the IPSC Canada Black Badge course. Haven't you read them? (To sum up: some like it, some don't. Some are in favour of mandatory 'holster training', some aren't.)

This topic has been beaten to death.
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In what manner does my post suggest I'm 'ignorant' to those threads? Every one of which I read and likely participated in BTW.

I'm baffled as to how pointing out lots of people don't want to take a course makes me remarkably ignorant of the fact lots of people don' want to take a course?

That is some great mental gymnastics right there.
 
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In calgary holster courses are mandetory in order to use a holster at the range.

Cost is arround 200 bucks and covers holstering and unholstering, intro to move and shoot, malfunction practice and intro to multi target engagement
 
SigSauce said:
In calgary holster courses are mandetory in order to use a holster at the range.

Cost is arround 200 bucks and covers holstering and unholstering, intro to move and shoot, malfunction practice and intro to multi target engagement
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Sounds like the IDPA criteria does't it?
 
SIG with the course being mandatory does the content follow a prescribed forum or follow a certain standard, and is there a certification for the instructors?
 
Would be interested in hearing some opinions on the need for periodic requalification. I think this issue I.e. want to use action ranges but not interested in Black Badge or competing - will be found in most clubs.

My club can't justify running a shorter/cheaper course when IPSC and IDPA is available - especially when club volunteer resources are so limited.
 
Pr589 said:
Would be interested in hearing some opinions on the need for periodic requalification. I think this issue I.e. want to use action ranges but not interested in Black Badge or competing - will be found in most clubs.

My club can't justify running a shorter/cheaper course when IPSC and IDPA is available - especially when club volunteer resources are so limited.
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Perhaps a spin off from the IDPA training would work..do it first and then people who want to continue with IDPA can proceed but optional.
 
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