Home defence For my Wife
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300Spartans
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Dog or better yet, two dogs. Make 'em big.
If there are grow ops beside you, the dogs are going to be visible to the growers. That can be a deterrent to someone planning to trespass on your property.
Keep a phone in each room of your house and have lots of lighting around the outside of your house and other parts of your property.
If there are grow ops beside you, the dogs are going to be visible to the growers. That can be a deterrent to someone planning to trespass on your property.
Keep a phone in each room of your house and have lots of lighting around the outside of your house and other parts of your property.
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Using a gun for protection of life is a bad idea without plenty of range time or without developing some basic combat skills. While commonly held beliefs are that a shotgun is the best tool, it is only useful to the person who can use it effectively. I think a better option here might be something along the lines of a lever action carbine chambered for handgun cartridges like the .357 or .44 magnum, or perhaps a Mini-14. All of these rifle options have mild recoil and her confidence will increase quickly if you concentrate on her marksmanship inside 25 yards.
The problem with either the rifle or shotgun option is that when trouble occurs you have to go and get it, whereas a pistol is worn so it can always with you. Trouble has a way of occuring without warning so the choice is yours. Once she has the marksmanship thing worked out, then you can begin getting creative about various drills that will reinforce a combat mindset.
If there are houses nearby, the .223 loaded with varmint bullets should not be able to injure anyone after passing through the wall of your house. A .44 or even a .357 can penetrate alot of lumber and still have sufficient mass and velocity left to inflict a lethal wound.
A gun in the house is only one element of what needs to be a multilayered approach to home security. A dog is a good idea, and two is better. So is putting up beware of the dog signs even if you don't own a dog. A criminal will normally seek out a soft target, so it might not take much to encourage him to move along to the next guy. Be creative, there is no limit to the little things you can do to make yourself a less attractive target. The yard should be well illuminated, and having it clear of bush so there are no hiding places adjacent to the house is important. Be in the habit of checking the door from a window, if that is possible, before you answer it. If your windows don't lock, find a way to secure them.
I have been a correctional officer for 24 years and have heard all about what inmates look for and avoid. My advice is to get a dog and a large breed that is a natural guard dog. Their instincts give an owner allot of warning of potential problems and will defend the owner with their life. I work allot of nights and I have an 110lb Akita. My wife feels pretty safe when I am at work. TAZZ
treebutcher
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One of the main reasons I suggested a dog. And, as mentioned, two good dogs are like a mini army! I always slept better when our Malionois was patroling the house. He would regularly check on the kids (push the door open with his nose) during the night.
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+1 for the dog(s).
Not only are they a good offense, they are also around the house to keep an eye on things even when no one is home. That is usually sufficient to deter most criminals, and if the mrs. still wants some sense of security, a nice 12ga will do the trick. Since you are in the country you are allowed to keep one firearm unlocked and accessable for "predator control"
Not only are they a good offense, they are also around the house to keep an eye on things even when no one is home. That is usually sufficient to deter most criminals, and if the mrs. still wants some sense of security, a nice 12ga will do the trick. Since you are in the country you are allowed to keep one firearm unlocked and accessable for "predator control"
Personally, I think a .410 coach gun would fit the bill nicely. If that is what you want. I have two dogs and have never had a problem. I personally would never pull a gun on an intruder. Mini Baseball bat is nice for that.
It would be awfull if some one was to throw a rock through the window of the other house. Then you could report a crime in progress and the police would come and do a little investigating. Maybe even call the owner to come down and open the house up.
It would be awfull if some one was to throw a rock through the window of the other house. Then you could report a crime in progress and the police would come and do a little investigating. Maybe even call the owner to come down and open the house up.
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I think the dog is a great idea.
But I also agree with getting a 12 gauge. The recoil is really not that bad. I mean, her back and neck can't be that bad that a little jolt is going to shatter her, is it? I also have back and neck injuries but manage my Remington 870 no problem. As long as my stance is semi-solid, I could fire my whole 7 round mag through that thing with 000 buck and still be fine.
And 00 or 000 buck might be unneeded. You could probably get away with #4 shot (which has minimal recoil) for HD. That would be more than enough to take down any intruder, but as many have said...the sound of that slide racking is sometimes good enough.
But I also agree with getting a 12 gauge. The recoil is really not that bad. I mean, her back and neck can't be that bad that a little jolt is going to shatter her, is it? I also have back and neck injuries but manage my Remington 870 no problem. As long as my stance is semi-solid, I could fire my whole 7 round mag through that thing with 000 buck and still be fine.
And 00 or 000 buck might be unneeded. You could probably get away with #4 shot (which has minimal recoil) for HD. That would be more than enough to take down any intruder, but as many have said...the sound of that slide racking is sometimes good enough.
Try a mossberg 500 with pistol grip and shoulder stock in 12g. If some one breaks in just racking a round in the chamber should be enought to scare them off, if not brace the stock against a wall and let fly, that should get their attention!!!!!!!!!!
I don't agree that she needs the biggest gun she can possibly handle.
Any person is better off with a gun they really feel comfortable with. If she didn't like a .243, she won't like a 20 gauge, and might even struggle with a .410. It happens.
So now I'm going to offer some advice that will go against the grain - get her a Ruger 10/22 and teach her to shoot it really well. A 10/22 in competent hands will work quite handily and even has some advantages, like large capacity magazines.
If there's anyone on the forum who doubts the defensive capabilities of .22 long rifle, just let me say that we used the short version for years to kill cows. Accuracy is more important than the size of the bullet.
Any person is better off with a gun they really feel comfortable with. If she didn't like a .243, she won't like a 20 gauge, and might even struggle with a .410. It happens.
So now I'm going to offer some advice that will go against the grain - get her a Ruger 10/22 and teach her to shoot it really well. A 10/22 in competent hands will work quite handily and even has some advantages, like large capacity magazines.
If there's anyone on the forum who doubts the defensive capabilities of .22 long rifle, just let me say that we used the short version for years to kill cows. Accuracy is more important than the size of the bullet.
manbearpig
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there are many reasons people dont want to get dogs. its basically like adopting a 3 year old child that will never grow up or be potty trained. its a big responsibility and not to be taken lightly. a gun is thousands of dollars cheaper and a lot less maintenance.
or since you said youre on a budget, maybe an SKS with a custom pad? if she runs out of ammo she can use the pigsticker
or since you said youre on a budget, maybe an SKS with a custom pad? if she runs out of ammo she can use the pigsticker
i like jethunters idea as a 22 is a no recoil round and would work as a defense round . i hope she never has to use it but the piece of mind could be very valuable.think of it as life insurance were you do not have to die to benefit .
punkrockboy
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This is good advice. A friend of mine on this board just got the Knoxx recoil stock on his shotgun, this thing is revolutionary. You cant truly appreciate it until you try it, it makes a slug feel like a .223. I would definitely recommend this if you want to use a 12gauge but dont want the recoil!
You said your wife wants a defense gun. Get a 20 ga pump with buck. Better yet, get dogs and a gun. But what you haven't said is wether your wife is prepared or trained to shoot. She may be scared, but killing human beings is not easy. It does not come naturally except to psycho/sociopaths. Normal people need to take training to be able to know:
When to shoot
When not to shoot
Where to shoot
What to do before
What to do after
Multiple Intruders
Where to hold up, run to or hide?
Storage and maintenance of the gun
If you're just buying a 20 ga and putting it under the bed, you might as well just give her a cellphone and a bible. The gun is 1%. Getting her ready to defend herself is 99% of the work.
When to shoot
When not to shoot
Where to shoot
What to do before
What to do after
Multiple Intruders
Where to hold up, run to or hide?
Storage and maintenance of the gun
If you're just buying a 20 ga and putting it under the bed, you might as well just give her a cellphone and a bible. The gun is 1%. Getting her ready to defend herself is 99% of the work.
Try a PS-90. Near zero recoil with the 5.7x28 ammo, low penetration into the house next door, good control in the bullpup design for CQB. Sights are tritium illuminated reticle for night and a decent 5MOA circle with dot for day (I have an LED illuminator for "in between"). Also, you have way better accuracy and control than a pistol (so you don't accidentally nail the dog as he is chewing on the guy's arm) and it is harder to be taken away.
And since you won't be firing on a range, you are already going to jail, so you might as well load the mag up with the fill 50 rounds.
And since you won't be firing on a range, you are already going to jail, so you might as well load the mag up with the fill 50 rounds.
