Hopkins & Allen heartbreaker!

LawrenceN

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I saw a Hopkins & Allen "Sterling" model stud trigger in .32 rimfie revolver for sale on craigslist. The pics were very nice, and the price was right, so I contacted the guy and he dropped by with the pistol. He admitted he knew jack about firearms in general and antiques in particular, but he'd picked it up at an auction sale because he liked the look of it.
When he unwrapped it, my heart went pit-a-pat! It was georgeous!! The nickel was about 99% with just a few tiny spots of wear on it, and the grips were nearly pristine, also with minimal wear. My first "oh no" was when I cocked the pistol. The hammer spring was nice & tight, the hammer locked back snugly and the stud trigger came into position, BUT the cylinder didn't lock into battery. I released the pin holding the cylinder, and took a look. The arm that engages the cylinder ratchet to rotate it into firing position was gone, and the part that engages the cylinder detent to hold it in position would not rise into position. My second "oh no" was when I put the bore light down the barrel. It was not shot out, but deliberately abraded with some sort of power tool to remove all of the rifling.
I had to tell him the sad news that what he had paid for was a pistol with a few saleable parts (the cylinder and grips), but basically a wall hanger. This was not a result of age and normal use or abuse, this was a deliberate defacement of a nice little piece of history. How sad that someone had chosen to deactivate a lovely old pistol in such beautiful shape and turn it into a piece of junk. Just thought I'd share.
 
OK, in all likelihood it needs a hand spring and a bolt spring; no big deal. The ruined bore is more of a problem. Could be sleeved easily enough.
 
OK, in all likelihood it needs a hand spring and a bolt spring; no big deal. The ruined bore is more of a problem. Could be sleeved easily enough.

He was asking $300., but as a parts gun I didn't have a clue as to what to offer him. Also, I don't have either the inclination, the knowledge, or the work area to refurbish the piece. With what you're suggesting, it sounds to me (with my limited knowledge of these pistols) that it would be more time and money than the pistol is worth.
 
Don't know that thepistol would be worth $300 intact. Maybe.
You are right - it wouldn't make economic sense to pay someone to do the repairs.
 
Yeah that is really too bad. You have to wonder why someone did that...

It is the luck of the draw. These guns are so old they have likely been through the hands of multiple Bubbas. Just be glad you didn't buy it. I bought a Belgian Bulldog sight unseen that was supposed to be a .44 Webley. The PO said that they had shot .44 Webley and it was a good shooter. I thought, well the price is good and went ahead and bought it.

Long story short, I get the gun and slug the bore. It comes out as .408, yet the cylinder bore is .457. I don't know what it is, but a .44 Webley it is not. Probably a .41 Rim or Colt that some donkey tried to make a .44 by boring out the cylinder. I contacted the seller and they maintained that they had fired .429 bullets out of it... Yeah right! With the size of that bore the gun would have exploded in their hand, no doubt about it.

So I have a piece of junk due to someone's idiotic machining and a less then honest vendor. I can't really do much with it now. Probably going to smash it with a 10# sledgehammer to spare anyone else in the future the grief. I'm still kinda pissed about the whole deal, sorry...

As I said, just feel glad you didn't buy junk like I did. Fingers crossed you find a better example soon!
 
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