Hot off the press re May 18

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On May 18, 2022, changes to sections 23 (Authorization to transfer non-restricted firearms) and 58.1 (Conditions - licence issued to business) of the Firearms Act; section 24.1 (Conditions) of the Firearms Licences Regulations; and sections 5 and 6 (Information Relating to Transferee's Licence), 7 (Period of Validity of Reference Number), 10, 11, and 12 of the Conditions of Transferring Firearms and Other Weapons Regulations, will come into force.

These changes will result in the addition to your licence of new conditions related to the retention and preservation of records of non-restricted firearms.

Please find below the business licence conditions that will be added to your current licence as of May 18, 2022.

A notice, with these new conditions, will be mailed to your business address.

If you have questions or would like additional information, please call 1 800 731-4000.

Conditions

Effective May 18, 2022 :

(1) The business must record and, for a period of 20 years beginning on the day on which the record is created, keep the following information relating to the business' possession and disposal of all non-restricted firearms:
(a) the classification of the firearm;
(b) the date and an indication of any business activity related to the possession or the disposal of the firearm, including, if applicable, its purchase, sale, bartering, gifting, consignment, importation, exportation, repair, alteration, deactivation, destruction, manufacture, pawn broking, storage and display;
(c) the firearm's manufacturer, make, model, type, action, gauge or calibre, barrel length and, in the case of a fixed magazine, magazine capacity;
(d) all serial numbers displayed on the firearm's frame or receiver;
(e) the name and address of the individual or business to which the firearm was sent, or from which the firearm was received, in the course of any business activity referred to in paragraph (b) other than an activity that relates to a transfer of the firearm, if applicable; and,
(f) if the business caused the firearm to be shipped by another person, the name of the shipper or carrier, their licence number or permit number, if applicable, and the package tracking number of the shipped firearm.

(2) The business must record and, for a period of 20 years from the day on which the business transfers a non-restricted firearm, keep the following information in respect of the transfer:
(a) the reference number issued by the Registrar;
(b) the day on which the reference number was issued;
(c) the transferee's licence number; and
(d) the firearm's make, model and type and, if any, its serial number.

(3) The business must, unless otherwise directed by a chief firearms officer, transmit any records containing the information referred to at conditions (1) or (2) above to the Registrar of Firearms if it is determined that the business will cease to be a business.
 
Pointdexter said:
This is a registry, plain and simple.
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The one benefit to this system is that this retarded registry is split up into 1000 different pieces and is held by citizens/private company's. (To be fair, this is good and bad. Good the government doesn't directly have, bad because joe shmoe doesn't need to keep records of all my personal info in an excel spreadsheet on some laptop in the back office of a gunstore.)

but seriously, jesus christ wtf is this bs
 
Thank god I sold all my rifles already.
It’s a damn shame I had to cancel my Bren 2 pre order, but it’s not worth having when they are just going to confiscate it as soon as they have everyone’s info.

My gun license is going dormant from this point forward, thankfully it’s already valid until 2027 and hopefully Justin has came out as trans and ran for UN leader by then.
 
So, in the case of a NR firearm getting deemed prohibited, will the businesses that sold these be forced to turn over records? Or do they only turn over records if they cease to be a business?

This country's leaders are a joke.
 
havensmg said:
So, in the case of a NR firearm getting deemed prohibited, will the businesses that sold these be forced to turn over records? Or do they only turn over records if they cease to be a business?

This country's leaders are a joke.
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I’m sure the CFO is keeping a copy in their files as well.

This is 100% a registry. It’s complete and utter BS

Does this make anyone else feel like just saying “#### off” to all our ridiculous rules?

I honestly don’t feel super compelled to follow tyrannical rules in a tyrannical system.
 
havensmg said:
So, in the case of a NR firearm getting deemed prohibited, will the businesses that sold these be forced to turn over records? Or do they only turn over records if they cease to be a business?

This country's leaders are a joke.
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I’m sure most of them changed hands several times.. didn’t need to phone it in prior to the 18th, when I sold my guns I just verified a valid pal in person and went on my way, others went consignment at stores and I had nothing to do with the transaction.
 
That looks like what Canadian Tire has been doing for years.

And that got nothing to do with private sales.
 
So, does the business have to retain any records prior to May 18? Or are we all essentially hooped as they can look at anything prior to then. The end game of this is simple. Being able to have a stop gap so any new prohibs can be traced to the last legal owner. So they can be seized.
 
What's the definition of a business? Here is the big poophole. Canada Post now requires you to register as a "business" in order to ship firearms across the country. Does this imply an individual who sells a firearm also has to keep this kind of record? Or is it only for Canada Post which is a crown corporation and not technically the government? Most likely, the less said the better. Though, I'm sure this site is monitored regularly.
 
So what if all firearms resellers just said 'No'?
I buy most of mine off of EE. I've no intention to keep anyone's info or subject them to storing mine.
I know I could save money with CP if I registered as a business but I don't because I'm not and it's not their business what I'm shipping as long as it's not a 'dangerous good'.
More people just need to say 'No'. I wish I'd have said 'no' all those years ago to the LGR. Lost my favourite .22LR because of that nonsense.
 
There were quite a few people in the possession of non restricted firearms, that made their thoughts known back in the day, when government (lieberal) were going after the prohibs and dark and scary black rifles . They tended to waffle about the need for such firearms, as they weren't sporting, hunting rifles , really who needs them ? WELL, it appears the lieberal government , now is in a round about, sneaky pete way, apparently targetting non restricted average Joe hunting rifles and long arms. You might even say they are back dooring the system to gather intelligence on all gun owners , maybe for future grabs ? Who knows.
 
So I guess if you are a criminal and want guns, make sure while you break into the 5000 gun stores across Canada, that you grab those books with names and guns sold, will make your next theft so much easier, knowingwho has what in theirhouse. Actually never mind stealing guns, that book must be worth a small fortune on the street.
 
Greglc said:
So I guess if you are a criminal and want guns, make sure while you break into the 5000 gun stores across Canada, that you grab those books with names and guns sold, will make your next theft so much easier, knowingwho has what in theirhouse. Actually never mind stealing guns, that book must be worth a small fortune on the street.
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Glad I have a PO Box instead of a street address.
 
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