How are mags restricted these days?

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Hello,

I'm a european owner of an M-305. I have never met or even heard of another M-305 owner in my country, although the seller supposedly had been able to sell ten or so rifles before he decided it was too much of a hassle.

Anyway, I'm browsing Canadian stores looking for some stuff for my gun. Primarily magazines and a new trigger assembly.

Mags: We have no magazine restrictions, and I'd like to buy a small bunch of 5/20 rounders and then modify them so that they work as originally intended. Does anyone still sell 5/20-mags that can easily be made into fully functional 20-rounders? AFAIK the mags usually have a small weld in them to limit the capacity. AFAIK (correct me if I'm wrong) this can be remedied with a file, quite easily. If the mags come with welded floor plates however... that's a no-no. Can't handle that.

Trigger assembly: My safety is so stiff it's stupid. I have to use my thumb to take the gun off safe. I've had the rifle for over five years - it's not getting better with use! I thought they were supposed to be taken off safe using the outer part of the trigger finger. Trying to do that with my gun will just make your hand hurt. Are american made trigger assemblies any better than my Norinco?

I've come to this forum several times over the years. I appreciate the help from you guys! The rifle has served me well as a hunting rifle. After shimming and proper handloading I can actually make nice groups with this rifle!
 
Oh, and another thing: can you fine Canadian shooters buy plastic stocks with rubber buttpads, like the ones that come with the M1a rifles? Where from?
 
Some are welded, some rivited. Best to ask whomever your buying from what method is used. There is a Springfield m1a trigger assembly in the ee now, that would be your best bet of getting parts(assuming its legal to import/export)
 
I have also seen some magazines with the bodies crimped, so that the follower cannot go below that point. As much as I hate rivets, I hate crimped magazines even more.

I think most people here who order the plastic stocks get them from Brownells out of the USA. I don't know if Sweden would have different market availability.
 
checkmate magazines in the u.s. makes m14 mags. their products are well regarded.

they might ship to Sweden- not sure.
 
I'll chime in since no one mentioned it yet. Some of the M14 mags have a long tail on the follower...

a###el, what do other shooters think of your M305? They must think it's cool that you have one seeing as how they are not common?

Cheers
Jay
P.S. Welcome to CGN!
 
Over here hunting rifles come in deep blue steel dressed up in walnut. There is a limit to how many guns a hunter can own, and because of this, the market for second hand rifles is a buyers market. Every time you get a new gun, you have to sell your old one. My other hunting rifles are an M98 Sako/FN Mauser in .30-06 and a Sako L579 in .308. Both are worn but as you know, high quality rifles made by craftsmen. I LOVE the engineering work that has been done on the m-305, but the "craftsmanship" of the production of these rifles is horrible. The turning of the barrel is so rough you can very well use it as a file! The aperture in the rear sight is not centered! Together with the weight, I think a lot of guys think it's a weird gun. I'm a pretty good shot with it, and I get big eyes every time I take the bolt out in less than ten seconds, standing up with the rifle in my hand. Swedes are not familiar with semi auto hunting rifles being able to do that (the browning BAR hunting rifle requires three screwdrivers, a video guide and a lot of patience to get the bolt out).

I have had a fantastic rivalry with my dad with this rifle. "You won't be able to hit anything with it, son" "It's gonna be a fine toy, but look at it, that's not a precision rifle" "One should always strive to have a rifle as accurate in possible, in hunting, to compensate for all the other factors out in the field, that you can not control". When I got the rifle, I didn't have a scope mount, or good handloads, or a tight gas block. The accuracy was #### and he went on telling me to get my inherited M98 up to speed with a new stock instead of wasting time on that Chinese thing.

Man did it feel good when I was done will all my tweaks... I still get a kick out of bringing that rifle to the range with him. I'm even used to the trigger. I can very well compete with him, using a bolt action rifle with a crisp trigger and a high magnification scope in a low mount (I use a 1,5-6x in a Bassett).

All of my friends who have done military service love it, however. They see the merit of the simplicity and ruggedness of the design, as well as its historical value.

I would really, really like to have a very well made american m-14 style rifle, like an LRB or so, but it's likely difficult because of legal reasons.

ALMAR, where did you get those mags with the long guide plate?
 
A###el. Send me a pm and see if we can work something out. I have 2 non welded floor plate magazine with a big rivet that pins them
 
Hi. You may not have mag restrictions, but I'd bet you have importation laws. You'd best look into that first.
You won't get anything M-14 related out of the U.S. without a U.S. government permit that requires a Swedish end user permit to get. M1A parts aren't restricted though. So you should be able to get the synthetic stock, Swedish laws permitting.
You'd likely be best to contact Marstar. They should know exactly what is required to export.
 
sorry for taking time to reply, i didnt look here again...better to go with pms next time.

i bougtht mine here: htt p://www.alliedarms.ca/M305_M14_Accessories.php

but they are sold out..
 
was bored so i went and took a pic and also dug out the paperwork i had on them.
i have 3, one came with my gun from Marstar and i picked up 2 more a couple month later, all 3 look exactly the same so im assuming that they are Norinco mags?

anyways, they are listed on my receipt from Marstar as;
Product ID: MAG-035-B
Description: Mag M14 20/5 (Long Mags)

as you can see the bottom plate is not welded so it just slips off with a screwdriver and the follower has a long fin on it that you could cut off if legal to do so where you are.

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wayupnorth said:
was bored so i went and took a pic and also dug out the paperwork i had on them.
i have 3, one came with my gun from Marstar and i picked up 2 more a couple month later, all 3 look exactly the same so im assuming that they are Norinco mags?

anyways, they are listed on my receipt from Marstar as;
Product ID: MAG-035-B
Description: Mag M14 20/5 (Long Mags)

as you can see the bottom plate is not welded so it just slips off with a screwdriver and the follower has a long fin on it that you could cut off if legal to do so where you are.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, I was under the assumption that the modification must be done to the body of the magazine. Hypathetically someone could easily use a regular follower and get full capacity without any tools. (I recall there was a case in the past when someone got in trouble for importing AR 30 rounder body. The argument was that you don't need any tools to make it prohibited device.
 
yingtsay said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, I was under the assumption that the modification must be done to the body of the magazine. Hypathetically someone could easily use a regular follower and get full capacity without any tools. (I recall there was a case in the past when someone got in trouble for importing AR 30 rounder body. The argument was that you don't need any tools to make it prohibited device.
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no idea.
but then i guess the question is where can you get a normal follower from up in canada?
either way converting a mag with or without tools is a 10 second operation.
its like a dead bolt on a house, realistically its there for looks only, anyone with a foot and a boot can kick a door in with one kick and 2 seconds of time.
same is with pinned mags, a pop rivet can be drilled or grinded off in 2 seconds or you can hunt down a follower and change it out. at the end of the day its there to remind you to play by the rules.

either way converting a $20 mag into a prohibited item is a pretty ####ty way to loose all your guns.
 
Im glad to hear you have an M 305 over here. I've just moved to Sweden from Canada last year and left mine in storage back home. I didn't realize one could even own a semi auto in Sweden until last weekend I was at a family members house and he had a browning semi. With the right courses Im sure I could import mine at some point.
 
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