How do you stop your scope from sliding foreword?

[chemo]

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What do you suppose happens when the scope slides in the rings, and the magnification ring comes up against the scope ring? It jams the magnification ring, so that it won't move.

I have never had this type of issue, but I also avoid Millet rings.

I've never had a mag ring jam, I don't know which scope would allow the rings to jam the magnification ring, but that would be a pretty weak design.

all my scopes tubes have a "protrusion" before the actual magnification adjustment so the rings cannot lock it.

 

[stubblejumper]

I've never had a mag ring jam, I don't know which scope would allow the rings to jam the magnification ring, but that would be a pretty weak design.

all my scopes tubes have a "protrusion" before the actual magnification adjustment so the rings cannot lock it.

I mention it, because I have seen it happen.

 

[chemo]

I mention it, because I have seen it happen.

ok I hear you

 

[thump_rrr]

Wheeler Engineering has a scope mounting kit with lapping bars. They also sell torque screw drivers that are a great piece of kit for everything from scope mounting chores to action screws.

The Wheeler Engineering Professional Scope Mounting Kit only has 1" and 30mm lapping bars.

 

[burnt_servo]

lapping your rings is similar to line boring the main bearings on a engine block . you need a small amount of " crush " to keep the bearings in place .

this is the opposite of what you do on a engine ,
what i have done after lapping the rings is then take the top 1/2 of the ring off and lap the matting surface of the ring onto a known flat surface . removing a couple thou should provide more than enough compression to grip your rings .
if not lap the matting surface a bit more till the rings stop slipping .

 

[Avalonthas]

I line the inside of my rings with black hockey tape and works to ensure its a nice hugging fit

 

[tactical lever]

A dab of blue loc-tite on the ring/scope mating surface, you will actually have to give a bit of a tug to get the scope out of the bottom rings, but it actually cleans up very easy after it dries.
And get a torque screwdriver as well.

 

[Beater]

millet and sh*t rings in my opinion. get something better. i shoot a 338 LM IMP on a rem 700 with no muzzel brake and i have had zero prob with the leupold MK4 bases and rings

 

[Camaro2010]

Thanks for all the help! First I am going to try lappping the rings and if that doesn't work I will have to try something else.

 

[open-sights]

Thanks for all the help! First I am going to try lappping the rings and if that doesn't work I will have to try something else.

I know you have recieved a ton of advice on lapping your rings but in my oppinion, lapping is exactly opposite for what you need unless there is a burr or machine mark that is visable and can be felt to the finger touch that is holding the ring off the scope body. My suggestion would be to go get yourself some decent rings, adding duct tape or glues is a band-aid solution that may or may not work short term. Get good rings and be done with it forever.

 

[Lodi]

Remove the scope and measure it's diameter. Assemble the rings and measure their inside diameter. Lapping can increase the ID of the rings.

 

[fuzzynuts54]

Lap It and locktite it and it will never move and you will never have any second thoughts if this shots going to count or did my scope move.

 

[cr5]

If you can afford to shoot 338 Lapua then you can afford to buy better rings.

I had the exact same setup as you last year and the factory Millett rings are way too high. You are right to worry about stripping the Millett rings as I found them to be very soft and low quality.

I ordered Valdada low 35mm rings directly from Valdada and they brought the scope down nice and close to the rifle and my scope never moved at all. They may be hard to get imported now but there are a couple other companies out there making 35mm rings now.

Try Vortex, they have 35mm rings available and they will be alot better than the Millett rings.

The scope actually impressed me with it's brightness and clarity and the turrets seemed to be quite accurate so you just need to get a solid interface between the scope and rifle and you should see good results at the range.

Good luck

 

[savage.3006]

I have the same scope and rings on my 308, when the rings are tightened to spec there is still a small gap where the rings would touch. Sounds to me like you have a set of rings out of spec for the scope. Get in touch with Millet aka Bushnell and see what they think.

 

[uncledillers]

I have been thinking about the whole lapping rings Idea.
Here are my thoughts. So the purpose of lapping the rings is to do 2 things removing any material that prevents them from being perfectly concentric, and 2 to make sure the 2 rings to be perfectly inline.

If rings may be out of spec, then who is to say, the scope tube, or lapping bar are not out of spec, or true round. lapping rings mounted to a slightly mishapped tube, will still have tollarance gaps.

I would figure the best solution it to actually use, devcon, jb weld... to bed the rings. Put a release agent on the scope, and side of the ring. Apply thin layer of bedding material to rings install, scope, and top rings apply appropriate torque. Wipe of excess bedding from the side, let harden. Remove scope clean of realese agent.
Now the bedding material should be filling in any imprefections, on both the scope and the rings.
You would have to mark the scope to exact position in the rings to keep thing squared away.

Just my 2 cents

 

[noneck180]

TPS rings.

Have you checked the dia of the tube? The JB weld bedding may also be the ticket..use a torque tool aswell 15in/lbs

 

[Camaro2010]

I just picked up a Savage 110FCP HS Precision in 338 Lapua. It has been shipped and is on its ways. Unfortunately I wont be able to tell you how it shoots yet, but what I do know is that it is not easy finding brass for.

Your choice is really dependant on how much you want to spend! The only thing I would stay away from is the Remington 700P in 338. I have seen a tremendous amount of bad reports on other forums and the slow twist barrel wont let you capitalize on the benefits of heavy high bc bullets.

I lapped my rings. It did significantly improve contact between the rings and scope tube, from about 10-15% contact to at least 75% to maybe 85% contact. Then I leveled and torqued the scope down. However I have not made it out to the range to test it yet, but as soon as I do I will report my findings. Thanks to all for the input, it has been much appreciated.


After a Little Lapping

Getting Better

All Done

Justin

 

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[Camaro2010]

After a long wait I finally was able to get out to the range on the weekend and fired over 40 rounds and the scope never moved. As far as I am concerened the Millet rings are to high but their quality is reasonable for rings that come with a scope and I believe in the future I will lap all rings before I use them to ensure they are uniform and to avoid this problem.

 

[stephen492]

Rubber Cement works great. I've done all my scopes this way since getting this tip and haven't had a problem since.