How many fps will dispatch a magpie.

Yup. I had 2 slavia,s as a kid. The later was a more powerful one with squarer stock.Dont know the model #. I KO'ed a crow at about 100 yds by pure fluke. I shot over his head by about a foot, the bird started flying off and the pellet hit him square in the head. He dropped like a brick. I ran up to the bird in amazement, it was huge as i was about 8 years old and was used to killing hundreds of blackbirds. The crow came around as i was standing over it and jumped up and flew off. :) I will never forget it.
Both the slavias were sold as we moved from Sask to BC.
Too bad.
 
mlehtovaara said:
You gotta be Fin kidding me?

1 - BB's are very innacurate

2 - magpies are small targets, and spray and pray is not the answer.

3 - Those BB's are probably not travelling at 500 fps, and if it is CO2 operated the velocities drop way down once a few shots get fired.

4 - this is just a really stupod idea
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1 - BB's are very innacurate

Copperhead BBs are not very accurate but Daisy zincs or other premium BBs are quiet accurate. 3 1/2" groups at 20 yards is not hard to achieve.

2 - magpies are small targets, and spray and pray is not the answer.

20 x BBs a second in a 3" group and there is no need to pray.

3 - Those BB's are probably not travelling at 500 fps, and if it is CO2 operated the velocities drop way down once a few shots get fired.

I use paintball HPA so freeze ups and velocity drops don't happen. Across the chrono rapid fire averages 460 fps within +- 15 fps.

4 - this is just a really stupid idea

BBs penetrate better then pellets at the same velocity.

I knew I would get someones reaction, lol

:D
 
I have shot/killed magpies and crows as far out as 67 yards with a Diana Model 34 in .177cal. The velocity ranges from 933fps to 1019fps depending on the pellet used. I prefer the .177 over the .22 air rifles for 2 reasons...pellet choice and cheaper to shoot.
 
windage said:
1 - BB's are very innacurate

Copperhead BBs are not very accurate but Daisy zincs or other premium BBs are quiet accurate. 3 1/2" groups at 20 yards is not hard to achieve.
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:rolleyes:

Thanks for proving my point!

If my pellet gun shot 3 1/2 inch groups at 20m I would no longer own a pellet gun.

The OP is looking to shoot to 40m. Your 3 1/2 inch groups turn into 6-7 inch groups, and probably worse at that distance! :eek:

And you do realize birds fly, and move right? They take off pretty quickly as well. Accuracy is the name of the game here.

Besides the OP already said he had a piece of junk.......
 
IMO.

if you are able to shoot a firearm ware you are. and a air rifle over 500fps is a firearm. i would go with .22shorts or a subsonic .22lr. i had a 1000fps .177cal. it was louder then my .22lr with subs and had alot less killing power.

thats what i concluded on. i have sold the air rifle and went with subsionics
 
Well 500 fps is fine for magpies in .177 Shot lots with an old Telly at 550fps and a CZ enhanced at just under 600 fps.Grouse as well.I'd buy a HW 80/95 in .22 and call it a day.A RWS 34 .22 is great as well for up to 20lb game with head shots.Specialty Shooting Sports in BC is the cheapest IMO.......Harold
 
"So i am talking body shot at about 40 yds."
500 fps gun shouldn't be tried over 30yds and it better be a head shot. I shot lots of magpies when I was a kid and the best place to hit them was the head. The feathers and bones in the wings are too tough for a clean kill and you don't get many shots when they are facing you.
 
Exactly. My only shot now is going to be through the back or through the side. Im afraid a front on shot will be 0% unless a retarded magpie shows up.
There are a few around though that have big bellies and i might get lucky clipping the belly area.
 
Just FYI tgat the advertised speeds on a lot of these air rifles are rated with non lead pellets basically they use plastic pellets to get the fps. I have a savage .177 that's rated for 1500fps but I get 1000-1100 fps out of a average pellet. Just keep this in mind.
 
I've folded crows ,grouse and gophers clean out to 40 yards with my HW80K/.22 and JSB exacts and or Predators............Harold
 
I have a Diane 48 that punches holes through steel coffee cans at 75 yards, 3/4 inch group. With the D&L " Scope balance weight " it is pretty quiet especially when I fine tune the weight with cotton balls. .177 will do great on Magpies, lower power rifles you might have to get them from behind so the pellet slides under the feathers. I would get an HW if I had to do it again, in a 77 or 97.
 
The gun has already been ordered. Benjamin np hardwood in 22. I dont want to spend lots of money on a gun that will be rarely used. Once these magpies are gone the gun will sit in the safe.
If magpies are anything like crows, they will tell their offspring to not come around these parts.
 
VLT79 said:
I have shot/killed magpies and crows as far out as 67 yards with a Diana Model 34 in .177cal. The velocity ranges from 933fps to 1019fps depending on the pellet used. I prefer the .177 over the .22 air rifles for 2 reasons...pellet choice and cheaper to shoot.
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I have a cheaper Gamo .177 that was rated at 1000 fps (I've never chronied it, but I doubt it is that fast, really). Head shots on rabbits out 10+yds is drop dead there, and a crow at 25 yards did the same.

I always wanted a good .22 air rifle, but they are big, heavy and noisy, and pellet choice/cost is worse. .177 in my limited use works fine.

zedex said:
The gun has already been ordered. Benjamin np hardwood in 22. I dont want to spend lots of money on a gun that will be rarely used. Once these magpies are gone the gun will sit in the safe.
If magpies are anything like crows, they will tell their offspring to not come around these parts.
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This nitro spring unit looks sweet though. May have to reconsider ;
 
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