How Many Mags???

ndb86 said:
or what about having them in a dump pouch?
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That's what I was thinking too. Keep some in mag pouches, the rest in the dump pouch.

ONE issue that may arise with this method would be empty mags. Where do you keep them after you empty one out? If you toss it in the dump pouch, you run the risk of grabbing an empty mag when you go to reload. Not cool
So.. Two dump pouches? One for full mags, one for empties?
 
I have 7 Pmags, 5 regular metal mags and 3 LAR mags for SR. When used in conjunction with stripper clips and mag charger, you can reload on the fly pretty quickly if need be. Preparation is key here, so making sure you are loaded up and plenty of stripper clips available etc is a good idea. Carrying loose spare ammo in pockets gets old real quick on a run down.
 
Matches 1-4 were designed for the CF guys using 30 round mags and the CF issued tac vest which holds 4 mags. With a 120 round capacity you've got no problem with the loadout required for the new matches. Thanks to Dim Kampbell us civies have to be a bit more strategic with the mag management.

I found that if you can carry 60 rounds loaded in mags at any one time, you can avoid having to load mags between stages. Personally, I'm too clumsy to load mags fast enough to be able to keep up with the pace of these matches.

Assuming you stick with all 5 rounders, that's 12 mags to manage. Unless you start stacking mag pouches 3 deep on your vest, which would make it a challenge going prone, you need to find additional storage. You're going to need the dump pouch for your empty mags as you have to bring them with you when you move forward during a stage, no leaving them on the ground and going back for them later like in CQB (or IPSC). There's just not enough time.

After some trial and error, I ended up using a 4 mag pouch on a drop leg platform plus 8 pouches on the vest. A smaller pouch with extra rounds on stripper clips and the dump pouch for the empties is just about right for these matches.
 
I haven't fired service rifle since 1987, and then with the L1A1. I can't even remember the course of fire back then. I feel the need with a No4 Mk2, M-4, and now M-14!
I would like to try them all over the course of fire.
This is a noob question but seeing as I love to load my 5/5 Norc mag with strippers, and except for the advantage of the LAR 10, should I use the AR, is there any reason in todays service rifle you couldn't carry your ammo mostly as strippers(No4 and M-14 only of course)
I would not be looking to be competitive( 50 year old eyes over aperture sights, :onCrack:) but just going through the drills and firing over the distances.

I read so much on minimum mag load outs but never see it mentioned.

Thanks.:canadaFlag:
 
ooh baby that's perfect!!

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...laughing, laughing, now THAT's a good start to my day!!
 
...and seconding RememberTheSomme...

Would loading/reloading using stripper clips be considered adequate? From other browsing I've found that at other shoots, people organizing are more than happy to make room for those who haven't made another 1000$ room in their budgets ($300 for ten more mags? whoa!) for ALL the sweet stuff and equipment that would be truly 'pro'... thoughts anyone?
 
I still don't understand why it is impossible to allow competitors to pause for a couple of minutes in between matches to recharge magazines, rather than having to acquire and manage 10 or more [reliable] mags.

Also,
Some of the people asking this are from outside of Ontario. Have all PRA's switched to the new 1-4 CFSAC matches, or are they still on the traditional 1-12 CFSAC matches? The traditional matches do not require more than 3 mags.
 
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Slug870. I see you are in NB. Find out what the course of fire is for the matches you will be attending in your region. No point equipping yourself for a course of fire in another part of Canada, unless you will be making the trip.
Study the course of fire, think about how many rounds you will be needing, plan accordingly.
 
Quiet said:
I still don't understand why it is impossible to allow competitors to pause for a couple of minutes in between matches to recharge magazines, rather than having to acquire and manage 10 or more [reliable] mags.

Also,
Some of the people asking this are from outside of Ontario. Have all PRA's switched to the new 1-4 CFSAC matches, or are they still on the traditional 1-12 CFSAC matches? The traditional matches do not require more than 3 mags.
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I shot the CFSAC matches last year from only a couple of mags and recharged with 5 rounds per as they were giving the match instructions. I am so old school I shot the rapids with a mag change even though I could have shot it with a 10rnd mag.

It can be done but and big but you need to be on the ball. I can load mags faster than the butts can change targets.
 
Quiet said:
I still don't understand why it is impossible to allow competitors to pause for a couple of minutes in between matches to recharge magazines, rather than having to acquire and manage 10 or more [reliable] mags.

Also,
Some of the people asking this are from outside of Ontario. Have all PRA's switched to the new 1-4 CFSAC matches, or are they still on the traditional 1-12 CFSAC matches? The traditional matches do not require more than 3 mags.
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If you let people recharge mag in the middle they will bring all kind of bags, plastic boxes and luggages to the firing points - and once they take off from the firing point at the run down, all the stuff will be left behind and someone has to remove them.

11 mags are no big deal - get a C9 pouch and you can safely store 6 on the side and out of the way. ( or get with time, buy some 10 rounders somewhere) .
 
evolture said:
Do you have to carry 10-12 mags on your chest rig?

What chest rig does this?
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Mine does.. it's not that hard really. Get something with plenty of MOLLE realestate. I've got a zip up BLACKHAWK vest with two sets of double AR mag holders at the bottom on both sides of the vest, and then I have two single mag holders above them on the left side, and pistol mags on the right side. That puts 10 AR mags on the front and 2 pistol mags. If I were to swap out the pistol mags for more single AR mags, that'd bring me to 12, and it wouldn't require having triple stacked mags to lay on either. Not to mention, if I wanted a dump pouch, I'd have room on the sides (probably would go with the left side) for one. Pretty simple organization really.
 
I was looking to get into some service rifle matches in Ontario - if I understand what I am reading, is it true they do NOT follow the service rifle match schedule and rules as found on the DRCA? If not is there anywhere I can go to download the match schedule and rules to read up on? Thanks.
 
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