How many malfunctions do you get?

With my STI GP6, I've never had it fail to go bang during a match.

I've let the thing get absolutely filthy, shooting practice ammo loaded with AIM bullets and Clays or Universal Clays powder. After 750+ rounds, it may get sluggish to open manually, it's never failed to fire or cycle a live round.

It's pre-MkVI K100 cousin was more dirt sensitive.

Truth be told, anyone who shoots competitively can expect at some point to have a gun malfunction. To think otherwise would be foolish. You need to do your part to reduce the likelyhood. Keep the gun clean, even if it doesn't seem to need it. Regular cleaning and oiling may be overkill for some, but if nothing else it keeps you familiar with the guns condition. Nothing sucks more than finding that your extractor is chipped than after trashing a field course. Feed it quality ammo. If you feel the need to scrimp on components, ask yourself this. Is the difference between the components you want and the components you'll settle for worth the stress?
 
For TDC, this is directly from the Webster's online dictionary. You are WRONG about the use of the word clip.

Definition of CLIP:

a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm
 
Also for TDC, you are WRONG about the use of the work jam. Again; This is quoted directly from Webster's online dictionary.

Definition of JAM

a : to become blocked or wedged
b : to become unworkable through the jamming of a movable part
 
M&P9 approximately 150,000 rounds 2 ammo related stoppages, a couple during an exercise in which the pistol was dropped in mud on purpose, and a weird one involving a magazine that I incorrectly reassembled after cleaning because of the mud thing. lol

In normal operation on the range it's been 100%. It only fails to go bang when there's no ammo in it.
 
Hokus Grey said:
M&P9 approximately 150,000 rounds 2 ammo related stoppages, a couple during an exercise in which the pistol was dropped in mud on purpose, and a weird one involving a magazine that I incorrectly reassembled after cleaning because of the mud thing. lol

In normal operation on the range it's been 100%. It only fails to go bang when there's no ammo in it.
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Me experience as well without the mud and my ammo count is less.:D I could say that about all my pistols though. MY CZ 85 Combat became quite sluggish after about 1K of IVI cartriges but it still loaded and fired. The M&P has digested every type of cartridge I have fed it.

Take Care

Bob
 
So wait a second. Did my printer just have a malfunction or stoppage? Because I'm pretty sure it says "paper jam" on the screen. ;)

If you have a fail to fire, I'll agree with you TDC, it's not a jam. But if I've got a piece of brass "jammed" in my slide, I'll call it a jam any day of the week. :)

It really is splitting hairs. Whereas clips and mags are different things completely.
 
" It really is splitting hairs. Whereas clips and mags are different things completely. "


No they aren't. Please read my quote above from the Webster's online dictionary.
According to the dictionary; clip is just another word for magazine.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
" It really is splitting hairs. Whereas clips and mags are different things completely. "


No they aren't. Please read my quote above from the Webster's online dictionary.
According to the dictionary; clip is just another word for magazine.
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Elemer Keith called mags "clips" but then what did he know he never met TDC. He probably used the term "jam" incorrectly as well.:rolleyes:

Take Care

Bob
 
The majority of malfunctions I have witnessed are usually ammo related. Most of the rest were guns whose reliability was improved to the point of inoperability, AKA "self inflicted gunsmithing"

Auggie D.
 
For starters IPSC guns are ran harder then most people run theirs, so parts wear quicker and tend to give out at the worst possible time, midstage. IPSC shooters tend to be the tinkering type, some know what they are doing and some don't. Bad reloads factor in too. not seating a reload or letting your hand drag on the slide will cause jam. mags get thrown around so if those get messed up the gun will suffer
 
Dexter Morgan said:
For TDC, this is directly from the Webster's online dictionary. You are WRONG about the use of the word clip.

Definition of CLIP:

a device to hold cartridges for charging the magazines of some rifles; also : a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm
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Dexter Morgan said:
Also for TDC, you are WRONG about the use of the work jam. Again; This is quoted directly from Webster's online dictionary.

Definition of JAM

a : to become blocked or wedged
b : to become unworkable through the jamming of a movable part
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Two problems. The dictionary includes terms and phrases that are in COMMON USAGE. That does not mean they are correct. The term 24/7 is incorrect and used by stupid people. 24 hours a day implies 7 days a week, 365 days a year every year forever. There is no need for the 7 in 24/7. The term LOL is also included in the dictionary and is nothing more than teenage internet slang.

Second issue. The definition indicates a blockage or the device is unworkable through the jamming of a moveable PART. Ammunition is not a part of a firearm. I have yet to see a schematic or "exploded view" drawing of a firearm where ammunition is included in the parts list.

Regardless of the two factors above. Intelligent, well versed shooters(not enthusiasts) refer to magazines as magazines, and a non functioning firearm as having incurred a stoppage or malfunction.



J_Scott said:
So wait a second. Did my printer just have a malfunction or stoppage? Because I'm pretty sure it says "paper jam" on the screen. ;)

If you have a fail to fire, I'll agree with you TDC, it's not a jam. But if I've got a piece of brass "jammed" in my slide, I'll call it a jam any day of the week. :)

It really is splitting hairs. Whereas clips and mags are different things completely.
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I'm concerned about what term is used with reference to firearms. I couldn't care less what your printer says. I suspect the term "paper Jam" is derived from the same incorrect term used for a firearms stoppage, seeing as how firearms have been having stoppages a lot longer than printers and that ignorant term has clearly stood the test of time as well.

TDC
 
I really don't keep accurate round count, but it's safe to assume 2k to 10k for the following:

- M&P40 - none
- G17 - None
- STI Ranger II (.45) - None after the first ~200 rds. Using good mags is a must, though.
- "Tuned" Nork .45 w/ Wilson internals - Borderline epileptic until I did some significant work.
 
" The dictionary includes terms and phrases that are in COMMON USAGE. "


Yes, that is correct. The Webster dictionary is constantly being updated as the English language evolves. New words and definitions are added all the time.

If it wasn't updated; The dictionary would only contain words from more than 150 years ago, when the first edition was published. Fancy words like "computer" wouldn't even be in there.
 
Dexter Morgan said:
" The dictionary includes terms and phrases that are in COMMON USAGE. "


Yes, that is correct. The Webster dictionary is constantly being updated as the English language evolves. New words and definitions are added all the time.

If it wasn't updated; The dictionary would only contain words from more than 150 years ago, when the first edition was published. Fancy words like "computer" wouldn't even be in there.
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Correct, but as noted, not all inclusions are accurate, relevant, or intelligent. Computer describes the device. LOL, 24/7 and JAM don't accurately describe sh*t. Well ok, Jam describes that sticky often sweet spread used on toast or sandwiches.

TDC
 
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