How Many Spare Mags Are 'Enough'?

[Moparlover]

Actually there about $40 dollars US and for Pmags well that depends anywhere from $11 to $16 for a standard mag. Remember the US army does not pay that much for them either.

The debate here is simple, if your going to go steel then H&K was at least for a while the way to go...If thermolite or plastic then Pmag would be the choice, although there are other out in the market that would beg to differ.

As for when shooting high volume of ammunition with Pmags I found there to be more problems with them as far as stoppages etc etc,

The Pmags/plastic has many advantages over steel now so they say...

Also in extreme cold they have had there feed lips break although they say they fixed that issue.

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Mind you the H&K mags are just like any other steel mag they will bend & deform eventually, but that why you should always by more mags

hi leibermeister, just saw a site in the states with gen3 hk 416 mags for 17 bucks, and the p mags for 25 bucks. just to prove a price for you.

 

[Leibermuster]

Dude, give me a f**king break. Where did I say any of that f**king nonsense?

And what gave you the incorrect assumption that I'm Norwegian and am so obtuse as to prescribe to that horses**t you so ill-eloquently wrote??

You just spilled some of your kool aid....

So then why are you the authority on Norwegian military use of H&K...are you on an exchange program, stationed there, what are you basing this on....

or are you one of those..

"H&K hates us idiots"

 

[Leibermuster]

hi leibermeister, just saw a site in the states with gen3 hk 416 mags for 17 bucks, and the p mags for 25 bucks. just to prove a price for you.

Sweet! Where send pm...

see prices will change in time..just have to be patient...

 

[Moparlover]

p.m. sent leibermeister

 

[nemesys]

No I'm not an Hk-anything, and your constant bull#### attacks on what you assume I am instead of taking in solid info is boring.

It's really not any of your ####ing business who or what I am, nor pertinent to what I posted. I wrote of my very-recent experiences regarding HK mags, along with solid info from my AO.

Take what you want from it, I don't give a ####. Just give up the ####in childish name calling bull####.

It's ridiculous.

 

[king66]

easy girls, give me the old gi 30 rds mags of the the 80's any day. colt gi? any one have a line on them? when i left germany i gave 6 away. god kicking yourself in the balls is hard.

 

[rivetc78]

O.K...SO? How many Spare mags then guys

 

[22ivan]

I like to have at least 10 mags for each of my firearms.

 

[Artiz]

I already said it. As much as you paid for your gun. $1350 AR-15, $1350 worth of mags. They do wear out much more than your gun, which could outlive you.

No I don't have 700$ worth of mags for my P226. But in my lifetime I could very well spend that much money on mags for it.

 

[TDC]

Actually there about $40 dollars US and for Pmags well that depends anywhere from $11 to $16 for a standard mag. Remember the US army does not pay that much for them either.

The debate here is simple, if your going to go steel then H&K was at least for a while the way to go...If thermolite or plastic then Pmag would be the choice, although there are other out in the market that would beg to differ.

As for when shooting high volume of ammunition with Pmags I found there to be more problems with them as far as stoppages etc etc,

The Pmags/plastic has many advantages over steel now so they say...

Also in extreme cold they have had there feed lips break although they say they fixed that issue.

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Mind you the H&K mags are just like any other steel mag they will bend & deform eventually, but that why you should always by more mags

By your own omission you proved the point. HK mags are nearly 4 times the cost of Pmags. You still haven't addressed the weight difference or the fact that HK's are not available in Canada.

TDC

ETA: You can never have enough spare mags. Buy as many as you can afford and keep buying. A minimum qty IMO is 25 mags per gun.

 

[Leibermuster]

By your own omission you proved the point. HK mags are nearly 4 times the cost of Pmags. You still haven't addressed the weight difference or the fact that HK's are not available in Canada.

TDC

ETA: You can never have enough spare mags. Buy as many as you can afford and keep buying. A minimum qty IMO is 25 mags per gun.

I can afford both so cost is not an issue for me?
But if I'm going to buy a superior magazine then, i will need a superior rifle, which i own. So H&K 30rds are good for me, because i like the steel mags, and there design is very ###y, it is a beautiful magazine.

I never get feeding issues with them, i have with some Pmags, not that it makes a big difference, usually i would have cleaned my rifle 10 times before a pmag would have issues, not to mention other issues can arise as well in the gun it's self.

Mind this is if I'm running a lower end AR like what you probably run!

But I run superior high end rifle always, so it need a superior magazine, hence the need for H&K SA/80 or Emag that will shine with an H&K/416-Mr223 variant.


Plus i find the H&K 30rds smoothness to drop faster then a pmag.

I have run both, so that is my opinion.

I have only held an emag...so the verdict is still out on that...

 

[nemesys]

Holy f**k.......

 

[Artiz]

Hey dude you have no signature! What The f**k?

 

[sprint]

But I run superior high end rifle always...

Yeah. So you keep saying.

For our edification, where exactly do you run your 'superior' rifle and magazines...


Everyone else is pretty transparent about who they are and where they use theirs. Some guys posting in various threads have some substantial experience behind them.

As yours is the dissenting voice, it would only be intellectually honest to let everyone know where you are coming from, yes? HK armorer is something different from impassioned airsofter.

Inquiring minds want to know.



Ah. Who am I kidding. Most people couldn't give a rat's ass really. They are heavy, expensive, unavailable and have gained a reputation (deserved or not) for epic failure.

I'll buy PMAGs and spend the money I save on ammunition. Or beer.

You be you. I'll be me.

 

[Leibermuster]

Ah. Who am I kidding. Most people couldn't give a rat's ass really. They are heavy, expensive, unavailable and have gained a reputation (deserved or not) for epic failure.


You be you. I'll be me.

As for epic fail.....come on lets get serious...it was the bloody standard/premier mag for a while, and still is top notch.

Have you used these mags before?

Is that really you in the picture?

You be me & all be me, & then you will be fine!

 

[nza]

this thread is fail. well it started out as FTW, now its fail, although not yet epic. needs more cowbell.

5x 10/10 ar mags in 556
3x 5/30 mags from questar with green follower
3x 27/30 ar mags in 22lr
7x glock mags
2x 1911 mags

Clearly I require more of each.
wrt pmags: meh. they don't hold 10 rds, so why would I need them? I'd like to think I run the 10/10 rra mags hard, drop them on concrete, drag them through the mud sand. probalby the only thing I don't do is to run over them with my land rover. they work for me, so until they are epic fail, I will just stick with volume. In this case, quantity over quality - just like all you can eat sushi.

my trg rig has space for 8 mags. I'd rather be carrying 80 rds in 10rd mags, vice 40 rds in 5rd pmags.

 

[Shazam]

Never enough mags. ...Never

 

[TDC]

I can afford both so cost is not an issue for me?
But if I'm going to buy a superior magazine then, i will need a superior rifle, which i own. So H&K 30rds are good for me, because i like the steel mags, and there design is very ###y, it is a beautiful magazine.

I never get feeding issues with them, i have with some Pmags, not that it makes a big difference, usually i would have cleaned my rifle 10 times before a pmag would have issues, not to mention other issues can arise as well in the gun it's self.

Mind this is if I'm running a lower end AR like what you probably run!

But I run superior high end rifle always, so it need a superior magazine, hence the need for H&K SA/80 or Emag that will shine with an H&K/416-Mr223 variant.


Plus i find the H&K 30rds smoothness to drop faster then a pmag.

I have run both, so that is my opinion.

I have only held an emag...so the verdict is still out on that...

So you've slumped down to "my gun is better than your gun". That's rich.

your ability to afford both mags is great, but it doesn't validate the belief that the HK mags are superior to Pmags.

"The design is very ###y" Last I checked, the HK mags have the same external appearance as a standard GI mag. Either way, you're admitting to purchasing your mags(and likely other gear) based on looks, a clear sign you're more concerned with looks than performance.

As far as low end rifles. I'm not sure where you get this from. Perhaps you're referring to DI AR's as opposed to piston operated rifles? Superior rifle or not, it won't improve your performance. You've already admitted you're concerned with appearance over practicality. One can only speculate that your skill set has taken a backseat to "high end guns and gear". Last time I checked, many militaries and LE agencies were running "low end" rifles with great success. After all, MIL-SPEC is MIL-SPEC. Of course, a deep ###y finish like that found on Hk products isn't standard on the "lower end" rifles. Then again, those who run the "low end" stuff aren't concerned with image and "###y" or "beautiful" gear.

One last note. I would be real curious to know just how much faster the HK mag drops from the mag well as compared to Pmags? From what I can find, the HK mag is offered in one of TWO possible finishes, Anti-friction OR maritime anticorrosion. So if you run the maritime anti-corrosion the benefit of the anti-friction is absent. If you reverse the two you no longer have a magazine protected from corrosion. So we're right back to one of my first points. What is the benefit to a magazine that is heavy, more expensive, not corrosion proof, and unavailable to the masses?

TDC

 

[sprint]

Is that really you in the picture?

Yup. Really really...

A 'skinny fat guy' who did his service in the army and now does other things. What gives me the giggles is this STRONG suspicion I have that the odds are fairly f**king good that you couldn't even dream of getting into a recognizable unit that would lend you the credibility you are looking for.

And while that point of clarification will be funny to me personally. it would still be pointless for me to hawk some "you don't know who I am" fairy tale.

1. On the first basis, I couldn't give a s**t about making such a lame statement because I have no dog in this fight.
2. People DON'T know who I am. No famous claims.

Nor do I try and sell anyone anything different for the pitiful gains you seem to be chasing. See the name tag? I'm nobody. Actually, looking back through this thread I note that most posters are either well known, or have been congenially inclined to qualify their history carefully .

Just not you.




Now this may come as a bit of a surprise to you, but no one has a f**king clue who you are either.

Then again, I'm not hawking the dissenting opinion here, am I dude?




Plus, we can't all make anonymous suggestions at how we're secretly cool or the Internet would be one big mess of Walter Mittys.

Hey... Wait a minute.

That would be kinda like your increasingly epic posts in THIS thread, wouldn't it?




Can't help but notice you have again dodged providing any semblance of credentials. Any chance we might here that particular tale, or can we just look forward to some more pro-Teutonic pose downs?

 

[munroe]

i wouldnt mind getting my hands on a dozen or so pmags. i definitely wouldnt mind having16 or so non pinned for work, but thats not going to happen