How much oil to use on AR?

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I'm still not 100% clear on how much oil I should be using? I'm afraid I may be using too much - though I am not sure how to tell?
the reason I say too much is one day last year at the range, I was having trouble with feeding a round form the mag into the chamber - and another member said it was because I had too much oil in there ?

how do you guys oil?
is there a site which visually shows the process of proper oil maintence?
 
I can tell you that when the beasts get a little fouled, the fast cure is a liberal dose of oil... the last time I was at BlackH20, instructors had spray cans of BreakFree in their cargo pockets... when the rifles on the line got a little sluggish, they'd hose some BreakFree into the ejection port area, covering the bolt... and voila... gun worked again... pity the person standing to the right of the freshly oiled AR though...
 
zero oil...Grease is your winner. Doesn't drip, burn, or blow off. CLP is a combination of a cleaner lubricant and protectant. Anything that is designed for more than one job doesn't do any one of them real well.

TDC
 
TDC said:
zero oil...Grease is your winner. Doesn't drip, burn, or blow off. CLP is a combination of a cleaner lubricant and protectant. Anything that is designed for more than one job doesn't do any one of them real well.

TDC
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off the top of your head, do you happen to know if any of our sponsors carry it? I do not recall seeing it in my local (London) gun store(s)?
 
+1 for grease !
I use high temperature ball bearing grease from Wallmart, works great

Because the grease stays where it's suppose too, I use very little of it : only on metal wear. Nothing on the bolt face and firing pin of course.
 
Grease is the only way to go. Go to the automotive dept at Cdn Tire. Get a big tub of high temp wheel bearing grease, the kind with no lithium in it, not that it matters much. Put it in a gun or brush it on. It's also useful for long-term storage, just cake it on. I'm military and can't stand the sight or CLP anymore. I use the odd spray on solvent to clean with and then lube it with grease. It also works well on a Glock/CZ-858.:50cal:


spartan1980 said:
off the top of your head, do you happen to know if any of our sponsors carry it? I do not recall seeing it in my local (London) gun store(s)?
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pfft I just drench it in Militec, shoot it until it stops (which my AR hasn't since it's last drenching and is around 1500 rounds).
 
BreakFree is the best solution. It lubricates, dissolves powder residue and protects metal parts from corrosion. If it is good for the Norwegians, Germans, Americans including the Navy and the Canadian Army, it is good for you!! It works at -30C and at +40C! I have put 25,024 riounds in a test with only 20 failure to feed ( mostly due to ammo concerns), using only BreakFree once in a while and no cleanning!

Grease attracts powder residue, dust and sand! I have seen too many good firearms ruinned by grease. In the early 70s I met the Colt rep for military sales. The number one problem with jamming M16s, the troops knew better and used greased instead of the approoved cleanner and lubricant. The M4 presently in use also uses a milspec BreakFree. BreakFree has lost some of the milspec contracts but it is still used exclusively in SOCOM according to my sources. They supply many components to many of the firearms used and have designed some of them.

Henry;)
 
Grease....R U SURE ???

Ya, M-14 & M1 Garand Grease is king, but the AR-15 is better with oil. After cleaning, the inside of the reciever were the bolt carrier slides through sould be lightly oiled, bolt assemble/carrier should be oiled (light grease also/I've done many times) all other part lightly oiled. It should not be dripping soaking wet, but a nice healthy shine/glow.
 
I use CLP as a bolt lube because it is free, and works.

The thought of grease, carbon, sand, dust and bits of brass mixed together and covering everything just seems like a bad idea. A bad idea that will require a bucket of solvent and a selection of scrub brushes to fully remove.
 
hnachaj said:
BreakFree is the best solution. It lubricates, dissolves powder residue and protects metal parts from corrosion. If it is good for the Norwegians, Germans, Americans including the Navy and the Canadian Army, it is good for you!! It works at -30C and at +40C! I have put 25,024 riounds in a test with only 20 failure to feed ( mostly due to ammo concerns), using only BreakFree once in a while and no cleanning!

Grease attracts powder residue, dust and sand! I have seen too many good firearms ruinned by grease. In the early 70s I met the Colt rep for military sales. The number one problem with jamming M16s, the troops knew better and used greased instead of the approoved cleanner and lubricant. The M4 presently in use also uses a milspec BreakFree. BreakFree has lost some of the milspec contracts but it is still used exclusively in SOCOM according to my sources. They supply many components to many of the firearms used and have designed some of them.

Henry;)
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The grease I run functions from -51 to 315'C non water soluble, non melting and corrosion inhibiting. It also stays where I put it. As I mentioned before, anything designed to accomplish more than one role doesn't do any one of them real well. Grease is designed to lubricate, end of story.

Large military contracts don't mean sh*t. Nepotism and dirty deals are not new in the government contract business. SOCOM apparently issues the HK Mark 23 as well.

Grease as well as oil does not "actively" attract any sort of debris. A wet point of contact whether it be the result of grease or oil will collect debris. The important fact about the AR is that is must be wet to run, not necessarily clean. With that in mind, oil with a low viscosity is at the mercy of gravity and the violent action of firing. Oil drips, burns, or is blown off the firearm with very few rounds. Grease doesn't move. A greased rifle will far outlast an oiled one. In any event, its your rifle do as you please.

On a side note, firearms don't "jam" they fail or malfunction. Jam is what you spread on your toast.

TDC
 
AR's sh!t where they eat -
I dont like the idea of grease staying put and thickening with all that burnt powder and carbon.
Clp blows out the ejection port taking the dirt out.
And break free dries leaving the metal impregnated with teflon - nice and slick just like a seasoned cast iron fry pan.
No one in the sand castle uses grease on AR's --
 
The teflon in BreakFree is not used as a lubricant. It is used as a drying agent. I met the inventor in the 80s! I will also locate the study at the Military college regarding stoppage in the M16 and the cure using BreakFree. It was a paper by a colonel getting his first star. It was quite some time ago in the late 80s. I just have to dig it up.

Regards,
Henry;)
 
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