How to load a Mosin 1891-30?
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The #2 way works great, especially if all you have at the moment is cheap Chinese stripper clips.
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We have several Mosin Nagants at every Milshoot, mostly M91/30 and M44's. They generally do well, but we can count on several cartridge jams, some of which have been severe enough to take the gun out of the competition. A quick demo of the "correct" way to charge one at the start of our next Milshoot seems a good idea.
I've not bothered to look further at it yet; it's not that big of a deal. I've got a re-furbed Russian with a sewerpipe barrel that's going to get canniblized for parts soon. The refurb works great & feeds excellent; but the barrel is worn out.
But thanks for the input. I'll keep it in mind for the time when I get ready to repair the M-39
I got some new Sellier and Bellot commercial ammo and some new stripper clips that appear to have the Izhevsk mark on them.
With live rounds at the rifle range, the rounds load in well. Better than the snap caps did.
Feed and cycling is 100%, very smooth. Using the stripper clips is far from easy...but they work.
Problem though. The snap cap has a square edge at the rear of the rim. The rifle ejects them out smartly.
The S&B have a rounded/angled back rear corner...they are not ejecting properly. I pull the unfired round back smartly and it just stays there are the rear of the bolt travel, except for about the third round out of 5.
The ejector works fine for the snap caps...sigh.
If I had to guess I'd say the rounded/angled corner on the brass means the ejector is not contacting the case strongly enough to kick it out. This is nothing to do with varnish in the chamber btw, and the extractor is fine and holding on to the case fine. This is hand cycling live rounds.
Anyone else had this happen? I wonder if my ejector is worn?
With live rounds at the rifle range, the rounds load in well. Better than the snap caps did.
Feed and cycling is 100%, very smooth. Using the stripper clips is far from easy...but they work.
Problem though. The snap cap has a square edge at the rear of the rim. The rifle ejects them out smartly.
The S&B have a rounded/angled back rear corner...they are not ejecting properly. I pull the unfired round back smartly and it just stays there are the rear of the bolt travel, except for about the third round out of 5.
The ejector works fine for the snap caps...sigh.
If I had to guess I'd say the rounded/angled corner on the brass means the ejector is not contacting the case strongly enough to kick it out. This is nothing to do with varnish in the chamber btw, and the extractor is fine and holding on to the case fine. This is hand cycling live rounds.
Anyone else had this happen? I wonder if my ejector is worn?
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Sorry, pal, it didn't help MY Mosin 91/30 worth a damn.
I've tried every possible way to stagger the rounds in the stripper clip, and the SOB STILL will not feed the rounds to the magazine.
I'm beginning to suspect WHY so many Soviet soldiers were killed in WWI and II, they couldn't load their damned rifles!!!
Any idea what I'm doing wrong??
(I know this is a huge thread resurrection, but I need help dammit!!!!!
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The cartridge is supposed to have that bevel. You need to be working the bolt HARD to the stops.
Sorry, pal, it didn't help MY Mosin 91/30 worth a damn.
I've tried every possible way to stagger the rounds in the stripper clip, and the SOB STILL will not feed the rounds to the magazine.
Any idea what I'm doing wrong??
(I know this is a huge thread resurrection, but I need help dammit!!!!!
When single loaded do they feed properly?
Does the interupter work properly?
Does the above work when you purposely put the top rims behind the lower rims?
If yes to all of the above, go back and watch the video on how to load the cartridges into the mag. I've only ever loaded my like method #2, and I've never had a problem. Sometimes the newly made chargers don't work very well. The steel is not springy enough and the bends are not quite right. You might also have to go and de-bur the chargers.
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The rounds single load properly, the interrupter is working just fine, and I've deburred the chargers.
It STILL won't feed the rounds out of the charger into the mag, even using method #2 in the Youtube video, with any reliability!!!!
My gawddamned thumb is sore from trying to push rounds into the magazine. It sure as hell won't be any fun at our next Service Rifle shoot if I've gotta load the mag one round at a time.
Are the TradeEx chargers the Russian ones or the Chinese ones? I got the Chinese chargers when I bought the rifle (39 Tula) from Westrifle.
That is weird.
I too am running chinese ones. For the most part they load fine, but every so often I have to really push to get one to work.
Perhaps you need to start swearing at your rifle in Russian and threaten to hit it very hard with a very large hammer.
I too am running chinese ones. For the most part they load fine, but every so often I have to really push to get one to work.
Perhaps you need to start swearing at your rifle in Russian and threaten to hit it very hard with a very large hammer.
That is weird.
I too am running chinese ones. For the most part they load fine, but every so often I have to really push to get one to work.
Perhaps you need to start swearing at your rifle in Russian and threaten to hit it very hard with a very large hammer.
Hmmm.....
I'm liking the Russian cursing idea. I know what yob tvoyu maht means, but I need some more!!!!
Okay, here's an update on my problem (if anybody cares ).
If you've read the last couple pages of the thread, you know that I just can't get the rounds to load into the magazine using chargers with any reliability. It's annoying as hell.
I've tried:
1) deburring the chargers - helps a (very) little bit
2) watching the videos on how to load the magazine with the chargers - doesn't help at all
3) filing the half-moon area wider where the rim is supposed to push the interrupter back - zip, zilch, zero
I STILL can't get the rounds into the mag from the chargers even after doing all of the above. What next, Mosin gurus??
If I can't get her to load properly from the chargers she's just going to be a safe queen and dust collector.
).If you've read the last couple pages of the thread, you know that I just can't get the rounds to load into the magazine using chargers with any reliability. It's annoying as hell.
I've tried:
1) deburring the chargers - helps a (very) little bit
2) watching the videos on how to load the magazine with the chargers - doesn't help at all
3) filing the half-moon area wider where the rim is supposed to push the interrupter back - zip, zilch, zero
I STILL can't get the rounds into the mag from the chargers even after doing all of the above. What next, Mosin gurus??
If I can't get her to load properly from the chargers she's just going to be a safe queen and dust collector.
Yep, to the EE with that abomination and shoot your Lee Enfields. Life's to short to be fu<king around with that nonsense IMHO
I too found Mosin's a pain to load and operate. So I ditched them, never to bother again...
Lee Enfields are so much smoother to operate! The Brits did know what they were doing and add Canadian quality into that mix...meow. Long Branch!
People suffer with Mosins because the rifles are cheap...can't see any other reason really...[/ducks and runs for cover]
Lee Enfields are so much smoother to operate! The Brits did know what they were doing and add Canadian quality into that mix...meow. Long Branch!
People suffer with Mosins because the rifles are cheap...can't see any other reason really...[/ducks and runs for cover]
Well I won't fault a fellow or gal for ditching a rifle they aren't enjoying but I will add that I can't say that I have loading issues with either my finn m91 or my russian 91/30 with single loading or with stripper clip. Is there a cgn member that lives near to you that can help you out?
