How to pull a round ball, after its center is pulled out...

mooncoon2 said:
going back to the original question of how to remove a stuck ball, one major nuisance is if the gun does not have a recessed breach plug because that allows the ball to block the vent or the nipple channel. A friend brought me two flinters reccently that were dryballed (one by him and one by a person he lent a gun to).
both gun had the vent blocked by the ball, neither gun could be debreached and I was sure that there was no powder in either. My ball puller would not pull the trade gun ball and the other was a 32 cal. I ended up heating area of the barrel where the ball was then smacking the barrel, muzzle down on my chopping block; both cases the melted lead came out. You only have to heat the barrel to about 700F to melt the ball. Also make sure the barrel is pointed in a safe direction just in case the "empty" gun is not.

cheers mooncoon
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Why not just turn out the usually threaded breech block and tap it out with a rod??? Then reassemble, and all is well.
 
mckutzy said:
I have a traditions Hawkin woodsman, in .50 cal.
Long story short, lent the gun to another shooter whose gun took a bad turn and can be shot.

Buddy dry balled. After using a sturdy rod and puller I believe the center is pulled out.
I have a bigger screw comming to try to get a bigger bite... aswell as a thorough clean down afterwards....


Whats peoples methods to combat this.....This is a first for me.......
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Remove the nipple and trickle some powder in the flash hole, install the nipple back in place and shoot. Usually works almost every time.
 
Well in amongst the addressing to pop the ball out and then try to pull what I/we thought was a ball... it however wasnt there when I eventually cleaned out and then found out there isnt any....

The breach plug is a patent breach type and is secured by the drum, As far as the info Ive read over the years... this isnt able to be removed easily with out destroying the threads of one or both of the drum or plug. Its heat shrunk on or the like....

In the end its clear and clean now.....

As for the flint... Ive heard a few thing on this rebated screw from traditions and people hadn't liked this design. just a place to trap dirt and allow a potential issue later on... like what im having....

I just need to take it to a guy that can extract it and then ill eventually fix the frizzen.
 
mckutzy said:
Well in amongst the addressing to pop the ball out and then try to pull what I/we thought was a ball... it however wasnt there when I eventually cleaned out and then found out there isnt any....

The breach plug is a patent breach type and is secured by the drum, As far as the info Ive read over the years... this isnt able to be removed easily with out destroying the threads of one or both of the drum or plug. Its heat shrunk on or the like....

In the end its clear and clean now.....

As for the flint... Ive heard a few thing on this rebated screw from traditions and people hadn't liked this design. just a place to trap dirt and allow a potential issue later on... like what im having....

I just need to take it to a guy that can extract it and then ill eventually fix the frizzen.
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If it is free and clear, what do you need a guy to extract??
 
Licensed to kill said:
I considered that but then you might have some sever lead fouling to clean out. Did all the lead run out or did it leave some along the length of the bore?
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As near as I could make out, all the lead came out. I gave it a good scrubbing with a bronze brush, afterward. In reply to Bear Hunter, I have only tried pulling a few breach plugs and many were exceedingly tight and I did not want to risk damaging the plug by trying further to remove it. In the case of the .32 caliber rifle, one of the lock bolts goes horizontally through the back of the breach plug which makes it very easy to twist or brake off the external portion of the plug. The puller that I use is metal and i have a series of screw on brass tips with are a little under bore diameter with a #12 screw silver soldered into them. The brass tip centers the screw in the barrel

cheers mooncoon
 
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