How to use mod 70 safety
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BigUglyMan
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Still haven't changed your display setting yet, eh?
BigUglyMan
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Fluffy-Tailed-Puppy Syndrome.
stickhunter
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On that theme
Yes, I was just getting into bed when it hit. I definitely felt things shift side-to-side and went on long enough that I had time to wonder if this was "the big one" starting. Definitely made my heart race a little faster.
Haha! Took me a solid minute to figure that out... I was looking around for half a kimber!
BigUglyMan
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Maybe we're approaching this question from the wrong perspective. When I use the M70 safety I pinch it between my thumb and forefinger and pull it backwards gently. Depending on the situation, I either shove the safety forward with my right thumb which allows it to snap all the way forward, or I pinch the safety between my thumb and forefinger and ease it forward to either the middle position (to unload) or all the way forward, to harvest tasty nyama.
Jordan Smith
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I have to laugh most of the time when guys talk in absolutes. There are times and circumstances in which I'll carry hot and rely on safe gun handling and the safety. There are others where it would be absolutely fool hardy to carry my rifle with a round in the chamber. I was hunting sheep with LBL this fall, and once we reached the top of the mountain we were climbing, it began to rain and sleet. The descent was exciting, and despite having trekking poles and good boots with great soles, I slipped and caught myself more than once while working down the mountain. You can bet your bottom dollar that my chamber was empty, despite the chance of bumping into some sheep while hiking down the mountain. If I'm hunting in tight quarters with others where the terrain is sketchy, and muzzle control may prove to be difficult to positively control 100% of the time (slips and falls happen to even the more sure-footed fellas), then an empty chamber it is. Still hunting alone, calling, stand hunting, stalking, etc, on flat forested ground, then carrying hot with the safety in its rearward-most position is fine, and at times advantageous. Having said that, this years buck came to me in what was a chance encounter. I was slowly walking through the brush, when I decided to stop and rattle at what looked like a decent spot. Not really expecting this calling stand to pay off, I set my empty rifle down against a tree a few feet away, and began rattling and smashing dried branches, willows, etc. A decent buck immediately materialized out of the trees at about 100 meters away. I quietly ducked behind the tall canes, grabbed my rifle, chambered a round as quietly as possible, and slowly stood up with the rifle shouldered. I centered the buck's shoulder in the scope, and dropped the hammer. He didn't make it far. Nor did he sense my presence and disappear while I chambered a round. I wouldn't have been opposed to holding a loaded rifle with safety on in that instance, but the point is that I still managed to kill the buck at only 100 yards, despite carrying with an empty chamber.
There is a time and place for both styles of hunting.
There is a time and place for both styles of hunting.
The M70 safety locks the striker and disconnects the trigger from te process. Some will prefer this, and some don't know and or don't care. For those don't know and don't care there is the option of continuing to not care. No real downside for them.
Some people want the bolt handle locked, some want it unlocked. Some want it locked most of the time, with the option of unlocking for unloading. Since those who have thought about it enough to have a preference can use the safety their way, everyone is covered so everyone should be happy. Those that don't care are in more of a neutral state. For the unknowing, opinions separate drastically. There are those in the "ignorance is bliss" camp, and others flying the "what you don't know can't hurt you" banner. Theiy intermix freely, and have been known to exist in the same litter. A third faction is the "don't cares" they do recognize the they are different than the first two groups but not surprisingly don't care. They are also a cheerful bunch, unless provoked.
Next up is the "do know and do care". They are aware that ignorance is bliss, but believe that what you don't know can hurt you. They might be happy, but only if they send missionaries to the first two groups.
The final study group is the "we're not happy until you're not happy" group. Not surprisingly the safety that gives everyone what they want and need , with different modes of operation infuriates them. They are widely known for unprovoked charges, and the colour red drives them into a rage. This was to be a further field of study, esp since the discovery that they could only see things in black and white. Unfortunately the study grant was exhausted getting through the grey area.
Some people want the bolt handle locked, some want it unlocked. Some want it locked most of the time, with the option of unlocking for unloading. Since those who have thought about it enough to have a preference can use the safety their way, everyone is covered so everyone should be happy. Those that don't care are in more of a neutral state. For the unknowing, opinions separate drastically. There are those in the "ignorance is bliss" camp, and others flying the "what you don't know can't hurt you" banner. Theiy intermix freely, and have been known to exist in the same litter. A third faction is the "don't cares" they do recognize the they are different than the first two groups but not surprisingly don't care. They are also a cheerful bunch, unless provoked.
Next up is the "do know and do care". They are aware that ignorance is bliss, but believe that what you don't know can hurt you. They might be happy, but only if they send missionaries to the first two groups.
The final study group is the "we're not happy until you're not happy" group. Not surprisingly the safety that gives everyone what they want and need , with different modes of operation infuriates them. They are widely known for unprovoked charges, and the colour red drives them into a rage. This was to be a further field of study, esp since the discovery that they could only see things in black and white. Unfortunately the study grant was exhausted getting through the grey area.
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Lol Dogleg, well put.
I prefer the Model 70, Ruger M77 MKII, or X-Bolt safeties, however as long a safety functions as it was supposed to I'm happy. Sometimes I carry fully unloaded, sometimes with rounds in the mag and an empty chamber, sometimes with a full mag and one in the chamber, sometimes with one in the chamber and an empty mag, sometimes......etc.....
Every situation is different in the field, and the conditions dictate how one carries. It's not rocket science, it's common sense.
I am still befuddled as to why such a simple thing like using a safety could cause such an uproar. Guess it's just CGN being, well, CGN lol.
I prefer the Model 70, Ruger M77 MKII, or X-Bolt safeties, however as long a safety functions as it was supposed to I'm happy. Sometimes I carry fully unloaded, sometimes with rounds in the mag and an empty chamber, sometimes with a full mag and one in the chamber, sometimes with one in the chamber and an empty mag, sometimes......etc.....
Every situation is different in the field, and the conditions dictate how one carries. It's not rocket science, it's common sense.
I am still befuddled as to why such a simple thing like using a safety could cause such an uproar. Guess it's just CGN being, well, CGN lol.
Yep...
I'm a "migrant"... you might find me in any of those groups depending on the issue and my mood at that moment...
Sometimes I just get triggered by a demonstration of extreme arrogance and/or an extremely obtuse position and just "charge the red flag" and frig the consequences... I won't bore you with the obvious metaphor... let's just call it "Track-itis."
Trackitis is an interesting phenomenum. The state of being annoyed and amused at the same time is widely known, but little understood. Then there's the here today, gone tomorrow nature of the affliction. I should see about getting a grant to study it. Funding seems to have dried up on the safety thing.
I think I will begin loading one in the chamber,but with the trigger depressed so the rifle isn't cocked. Then I will leave the safety off.
Then all I have to do is lift the bolt and #### it.
I can't believe nobody figured this out yet. I'm so SMRT!
Then all I have to do is lift the bolt and #### it.
I can't believe nobody figured this out yet. I'm so SMRT!
What's the safety like on a Cooper anyways?....
Its a side mounted trigger blocker. Although it seems to work as well as others of this type, the actual switch is tiny. Its almost like someone designed the button so that people who don't use safeties could easily pretend it isn't there at all. It practically disappears when it is on safe. It is conceivable that the purpose was to make it more snag resistant, but I can't help thinking it was designed by someone who didn't like safeties. Since the Cooper evolved out of singleshot varmint rifles that's entirely possible.
