Im sure these fellows share your same view. NOT!!!!!!!! Just cause you carry doesn't mean you need to kill a charging bear. I've done plenty of bear hunting too.
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Hunter killed by bear, WRITE a letter to change Wilderness ATC 'rules'..
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Im sure these fellows share your same view. NOT!!!!!!!! Just cause you carry doesn't mean you need to kill a charging bear. I've done plenty of bear hunting too.
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I'm not against wilderness ATC but this case seems to be a wrong one to use as exemple, the guy was carrying a rifle and that didn't save him so I doubt a handgun would have. From the look of it, it seems to me like he was caught by surprise probably from behind.
Ted Nugent would be all over this. Some one should send him the link. In one of his interviews in Canada he specifically mentioned being charged by a grizzly and a side arm being quicker.
I'm gonna send it lol. Enough talk time for action.
I'm gonna send it lol. Enough talk time for action.
Would you disagree that a handgun is easier to use in close quarters? Or when a bear has a hold of you? It might give you a fighting chance & I would want that chance!
Cheers
Jay
bearkilr
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We still have quite a few asinine laws here, but what we don't have is grizzly (except the odd tundra grizz way up north), so the reluctance to issue an ATC is always based on that. Unfortunately most don't see black bear as a threat or reason to need an ATC. They're a bit more open to issuing carry permits near the Hudson Bay in polar bear country and the "shotgun only for guides" law doesn't apply there.
I'm all in favor, but in a lot of cases it gives a false sense of security. Just having a gun handy isn't going to save you. Most of these incidents come about when both parties are surprised at close range and the bear reacts instinctively.
Grizz
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We are our own worst enemy.
Sadly, I have to agree with you. From what I can tell, only ONE guy posted 'done'... THANKS geologist!
Cheers
Jay
Getting a running whitetail in crosshairs is hard....getting a charging grizzly in your scope close quarters...good luck. A pistol is designed for close quarters..fast action defensive shooting. Getting charged by a bear aint fun..thankfully I had a bluff but you never know and a 44 mag would sure be nice.
I totally agree with you Jay, I'm just trying to counter the first thing all anti gun and anti hunting folks will say about this case. There's has been plenty of bear attacks from Quebec, Ontario and here out west lately where the victims didn't have a firearm for protection, why not use that as the basis of your letter?
I agree its a remote experience. But given the choice if a guy wants to carry in his outdoor adventures he should have the option.
You don't want to - good for you.
As a guy that can empathize directly with this fellow - I have hunted that drainage, and I have packed for sheep hunting just like he did - with the rifle in the carrier on the pack. I would certainly carry a sidearm if permitted by law, and would have no issue with others wishing to do the same.
Was the rifle loose, or carried in the carrier on his pack like 90% of the sheephunters I encounter (including myself)?
I carry pepper spray in a holster for the same reason - but if a sidearm were allowed I would certainly have one as well.
ATC is a very good point that Jay brings up. you wont convince the anti guns and anti hunters we need to focus on what we want and need.
Mauser GDog
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What would the right example be?
tylerjwitty
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Moose can be pretty wild this time of year
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Bear is on you. You've lost your rifle. You reach down, draw from your hip and start firing.
Better than using your empty hands. Or playing dead.
