Hunter orange

Recent studies by game biologists now suggest otherwise. "Blaze" colors (Orange, red or yellow) are seen by members of the deer family as intensely white , due to their reflective nature. Don't get me wrong, I am only pointing out an erroneous belief, not arguing that ONTARIO hunters (and other mandated provinces) should not wear the stuff. Thank God I live in BC, where I don't as yet have to worry about that clothing. With the very low rate of "incidents" here, I suspect it will be a long while before we ever see it, if ever. As for claiming that BC has no thick brush, obviously the poster has never hunted coastal areas of BC. I grew up in Salmon Arm, and have hunted all over BC and Alberta. There is a vast variety of brush areas in BC, trust me, and some of that coastal rainforest is so thick it is virtually impenetrable. Guess not much danger of getting shot there, can't see 25 yards. Regards, Eagleye

Really?

That is interesting, would you happen to have the article on that so I may read it?

As for the rainforest.. Hey, most of where I live is THAT THICK, so thick you can't see 25 yards in front of you either, breaking your way through the bush most of the times.

Some of the forest in BC and Alberta that I seen when I was younger, I could walk through there no problem it was just very tall pine trees with enough room to walk through each and every one of em.

I am just basing my past on what I remembered. It was many years ago.

I would be interested if you could PM me with that article on blaze orange and game vision to it if you happen to have it.
Regards
 
I heard about that pine beetle problem, dang.. I hope that never comes here.

We just get most of ours toren out by loggers .. grrrr

I get pissed every time I see a load of logs getting hauled away and the mess they leave behind
 
Really?

That is interesting, would you happen to have the article on that so I may read it?

As for the rainforest.. Hey, most of where I live is THAT THICK, so thick you can't see 25 yards in front of you either, breaking your way through the bush most of the times.

Some of the forest in BC and Alberta that I seen when I was younger, I could walk through there no problem it was just very tall pine trees with enough room to walk through each and every one of em.

I am just basing my past on what I remembered. It was many years ago.

I would be interested if you could PM me with that article on blaze orange and game vision to it if you happen to have it.
Regards

You really saw all of Alberta and BC, Wow:rolleyes:
Generalizing, a symptom of ignorance. Enjoy the orange, you need it.
 
This is perfect, way to attack everyone, just shut up and continue with your day, this has become the dumbest thread of all time.
 
This is perfect, way to attack everyone, just shut up and continue with your day, this has become the dumbest thread of all time.

I hope this comment isn't directed at me. My issue is people doing the "my home town is better....harder to hunt....has bigger bicks cause......magnum or go home....." The guy doesn't know BC from a hole, if you wants to wear orange good for you. If the law demands it, obey the law; I won't be caught dead looking like a pilon unless I have too, but I won't tell you how to hunt and what you terrain is like in Ontario because I've been to Lanark County and Orillia once.
Frickin' read a book or keep it tight about stuff you have little or no experience with.
 
Think what you want Kyle,

I am not going to start no argument with you. But I DO KNOW that our woods are more dense then most of yours, and YES I have been to BC. Not hunting myself but when I was younger I went hunting with my uncle in Salmon Arm.

And just so you know, Ontario's woods are very different in density the further north you go.

Ever been to the Kirkland Lake area? pretty thick s**t.

And about hunter orange.. do all the:jerkit: you want to. It's safe for Ontario "dude" and if you wanna argue about that then well. your just a wingding.
End of story

yes I have been to Kirkland lake. I used to live in Northern Ontario just for an FYI so you really cant feed me the BS that your spouting cause ive lived and hunted and just been in the woods of both regions and can tell you from ACTUALL EXPIERNCE that there's no diffrence.
there's very thick forested areas here just as much as you see in Ontario. and for the record I dont care one way or the other if you wanna wear orange or not, it makes no diffrence to me. however your just spouting crap you know nothing about with regards to oh our bush is thicker blah blah blah. well it's not you dont know what your talking about your being shut down left right and centre and you keep coming back with the same crap that isnt true and you have no idea one way or another, so like I said before shut up you dont know what your talking about your just making yourself look silly :rolleyes:. leave it at that.

Kyle.
 
I heard about that pine beetle problem, dang.. I hope that never comes here.

We just get most of ours toren out by loggers .. grrrr

I get pissed every time I see a load of logs getting hauled away and the mess they leave behind

You don't have to worry about it, they need REAL pines to survive, your trees are safe.

Really?

That is interesting, would you happen to have the article on that so I may read it?

As for the rainforest.. Hey, most of where I live is THAT THICK, so thick you can't see 25 yards in front of you either, breaking your way through the bush most of the times.

Some of the forest in BC and Alberta that I seen when I was younger, I could walk through there no problem it was just very tall pine trees with enough room to walk through each and every one of em.

I am just basing my past on what I remembered. It was many years ago.

I would be interested if you could PM me with that article on blaze orange and game vision to it if you happen to have it.
Regards

Your memory serves you correct, for the itty-bitty part that you saw. Most of Ontario is Canadian Shield and sub-arctic forest, you see little diversity in your province. You need to remember that between Alberta and BC we have Canadian Shield, high-tundra prairie, sea-level prairie, arctic-forest, muskeg, parkland (deciduous), Coniferous forest, Foothills, Rocky Mountains, Coastal Mountains, Coastal Flats, Desert, Arid Grassland, and cedar swaps, just to name a few. Did you ever visit the slopes around Kitimat where the Devil's Club is so thick you cannot physically walk without slashing it down? Or have you ever visited the muskeg forest of northern Alberta where you have pines so thick its painful to walk through, not from the needles, but the lower dead snags hanging off of the trees intertwined? Obviously not. Some of the largest Whitetail in North America are shot in this stuff (north of the Biche) without dogs, without treestands and without pilon clothing, 'cause we don't shoot at anything without four legs and we listen for movement; you can hear that in the woods if you don't have dogs baying and running around doing your work for you:evil:.

As for the research about bright orange and yellow being seen as a stark 'white' by ungulates, I have known this through reading reports and books written by biologists and wildlife researchers for some time. This is stuff you don't learn from reading Whitetail magazine, or Petersen's Hunting, it comes from educated people who write books. Most of it is available through search engines on the internet. It's easy enough to find for yourself, if a person cares too. So obviously no, fluorescent orange doesn't make a man invisible in woods that contain nearly no 'phosphorescent' colors and comes from the other side of the color spectrum. I could care less though because I normally wear blue jeans and maybe a Advantage colored hunting jacket most of the season. And I shoot either an elk or a moose and a couple deer every year.

I recommend, friend from the east, that you remember that we have more than double the big game species to hunt out here because of DIVERSITY in landscape. Your 'bush' is no thicker that what people out here hunt Black Tail deer in. Thanks for asking though.
 
Frickin' read a book or keep it tight about stuff you have little or no experience with.

Would that "no experience" cover you & Florecence orange hunting gear? :D

you see little diversity in your province.

Wll that quote makes it obvious you know nothing of Ontario, too :cool:

Did you ever visit the slopes around Kitimat where the Devil's Club is so thick you cannot physically walk without slashing it down? Or have you ever visited the muskeg forest of northern Alberta where you have pines so thick its painful to walk through, not from the needles, but the lower dead snags hanging off of the trees intertwined?

Please enlighten me then why most everyone in Atb & BC advocate scopes in the 3x9, 4x12 range :confused: Seems to me they would be quite useless in situations described :confused:
 
Well i have been reading this and trying hard to stay out of this debate.
But
I have lived in Northern Ontario for over 40 years I have hunted the woods of Northern Ontario from North Bay to Moose factory and West to the lake head.
I have walked through brush so thick that you have to cover your face to walk through it to recover game. I wore the orange as it was the law I feel undressed now that I live and hunt in Northern BC. I do not mind not wearing orange now. The bush here is as thick and nasty as some parts of Ontario. The thing that seems to be missed in this thread is if the bush is as thick as you say why would you hunt there as the game animals will not be able to get through it. I have hunted many cut overs and walked many a trail. I have always make sure of what I was going to shoot before I lifted my gun. It sounds to me that this is a pissing match again between people how either know nothing about what they are saying or just wont to stir the pot.

Give it a rest.

The woods are thick in Canada of redneck and un educated people.
Ignorance is bliss.
We should try and talk about stuff we know about.


Don
 
Would that "no experience" cover you & Florecence orange hunting gear? :D

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Please enlighten me then why most everyone in Atb & BC advocate scopes in the 3x9, 4x12 range :confused: Seems to me they would be quite useless in situations described :confused:

Because one morning you may be hunting in thick cover, and then the afternoon in wide open country.

Proper use of a variable scope can work well in these conditions.
 
^ I'm glad you said "most everyone" in AB or BC...

I select scopes based on the caliber of the gun as much as anything. I live in Alberta, yet I've got a couple of guns with iron sights, 1.5-6X scopes, 2-7X, 2.5-8X, 3-9X and 2.5-10X.

I do have 2 5-15X scopes but those are just on varmint rifles and only used for punching paper.
 
Would that "no experience" cover you & Florecence orange hunting gear? :D

No I own some, because I hunt in Saskatchewan also, were it is mandatory. There is no 'experienced' literature out there that compels me to wear it. The only incident I have ever had that would have, maybe, seen a difference was with a hunter from Ontario out here. And his @ssh@t excuse was we weren't wearing orange:mad:.
I don't know any body who shoots at things with out identifying it first. That means if it isn't clear, you check first, before you point or shoot.
My experience is extensive enough practically and in literature (I have 4 moving boxes in my garage with the literature on these general subjects that I've read and re-read. I only hope that I have retained a tenth of it to keep me from believing old-wise tales.)
I believe that in the beginning, you missed the point of my post; you may have read it too quickly in haste to retort.

you see little diversity in your province.

Wll that quote makes it obvious you know nothing of Ontario, too :cool:

Uh, ya, how are your mountains, or your deserts, I have both within at least 2 hours drive,as well as swamp and high tundra prairie. My point to make in this was the fellow in question was judging terrain from a visit to Salmon Arm:rolleyes:. IF he would have taken a walk up Skimikin Valley he might have seen some very thick black timber (which is even harder to navigate because it is on a 20% grade). I have been to Ontario, and seen some, but definitely not all. There is diversity between the Georgia Bay and Lanark county, but not nearly as extreme as the difference between Nordegg, and Lethbridge in Alberta or Chilliwack and Atlin Lake in BC. If you are going tho argue with that, geography isn't a strong point:p.

Did you ever visit the slopes around Kitimat where the Devil's Club is so thick you cannot physically walk without slashing it down? Or have you ever visited the muskeg forest of northern Alberta where you have pines so thick its painful to walk through, not from the needles, but the lower dead snags hanging off of the trees intertwined?

Please enlighten me then why most everyone in Atb & BC advocate scopes in the 3x9, 4x12 range :confused: Seems to me they would be quite useless in situations described :confused:

Only a small portion of people hunt that specific terrain, but I've found 3x and 4x usable in 15yd applications (I prefer a 2.5-8 or 1.75-6 in that type of dense foliage myself). That same rifle is likely to be used to hunt sheep in Cache Creek or Mule deer in Peace River where 300yd shots aren't the norm, but are likely. The variable scope idea speaks again of our diverse hunting conditions. It really isn't all that confusing of a situation.
That and what the heck does scope application have to do with this subject:confused::rolleyes:

Well i have been reading this and trying hard to stay out of this debate.
But
I have lived in Northern Ontario for over 40 years I have hunted the woods of Northern Ontario from North Bay to Moose factory and West to the lake head.
I have walked through brush so thick that you have to cover your face to walk through it to recover game. I wore the orange as it was the law I feel undressed now that I live and hunt in Northern BC. I do not mind not wearing orange now. The bush here is as thick and nasty as some parts of Ontario. The thing that seems to be missed in this thread is if the bush is as thick as you say why would you hunt there as the game animals will not be able to get through it. I have hunted many cut overs and walked many a trail. I have always make sure of what I was going to shoot before I lifted my gun. It sounds to me that this is a pissing match again between people how either know nothing about what they are saying or just wont to stir the pot.

Give it a rest.

The woods are thick in Canada of redneck and un educated people.
Ignorance is bliss.
We should try and talk about stuff we know about.


Don

You sir, are way to level headed and it would be appreciated if you would keep your common sense to yourself, before it spreads and takes all of the fun out of threads like these. Shoo......shoo.....:D
 
That comment was not directed to anyone here, just grow up, the "my dad can beat up yout dad" comments are just dumb, hey, most areas have a hunt open now, maybe we should get out there and hunt rather than sit online.

Grouse in 4 days!
 
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