Hunting question

No, restricted firearms, including handguns can only be discharged at approved ranges in Ontario. By definition, this rules them out for hunting.

In any case, you should review the hunting regs very closely and also the firearms laws as they relate to non-restricted and restricted firearms. If you have an RPAL, I can't imagine how you didn't know about this.
 
By looking at his other posts I do not believe he has a RPAL or PAL, and is only just getting his feet wet.

There's only one way to learn, and thats to read a lot and ask questions.:D

That's exactly why I didn't go completely over the deep end :D

Kept it kinda reserved, aka, the first part of my response. :cheers:
 
Even if it's legal to use a 9mm pistol to go hunting, why would you do it? Hehehe... Unless you're some insane sharp shooter, it's going to be mighty hard to hit your game in the right spot.

BTW, here's a noob question from me. Is there any AR15 variant that is actually non-restricted?

TIA
 
Even if it's legal to use a 9mm pistol to go hunting, why would you do it? Hehehe... Unless you're some insane sharp shooter, it's going to be mighty hard to hit your game in the right spot.

Sounds like FUDD talk to me. There are lots of guys hunting deer and big game in the states out to 150 yards with no problem. Get a decent 500 S&W magnum with the right scope, its no trouble at all.

BTW, here's a noob question from me. Is there any AR15 variant that is actually non-restricted?

I think there is a few designs, but they are not really anything like an AR15. I can't quite remember though
 
Sounds like FUDD talk to me. There are lots of guys hunting deer and big game in the states out to 150 yards with no problem. Get a decent 500 S&W magnum with the right scope, its no trouble at all.



I think there is a few designs, but they are not really anything like an AR15. I can't quite remember though

Dude, I'm just talking about the basic 9mm. Who would really hunt deer with those?
 
Dude, I'm just talking about the basic 9mm. Who would really hunt deer with those?

I'd give it a whirl Handgun hunting would be a blast! :dancingbanana:
Don't get me wrong, a 9mm wouldn't be my first choice of hunting handgun...but I still wouldn't hesitate to use it if I didn't have anything better. Not a whole lot of difference between killing a person and killing an animal (within reason ie:small to medium sized game)
 
"...any AR15 variant that is actually non-restricted?..." Nope.
"...within reason ie:small to medium..." Small game only.
"...Not a whole lot of difference between..." There's a huge difference.
 
So a 9mm will kill a person but you don't think it would kill a deer? The difference would be what? I'm not talking long range here. Consider the distances that bowhunters are taking deer at, now what would be the difference between that and a 9mm?
 
So a 9mm will kill a person but you don't think it would kill a deer? The difference would be what? I'm not talking long range here. Consider the distances that bowhunters are taking deer at, now what would be the difference between that and a 9mm?

How many of those humans are dead instantly? Probably not to many.

I think the difference is that a person cant run 5 miles in the time it takes to die from the wound of an underpowered cartridge a deer can.
 
How many of those humans are dead instantly? Probably not to many.

I think the difference is that a person cant run 5 miles in the time it takes to die from the wound of an underpowered cartridge a deer can.

Fair enough, that makes sense. I was simply suggesting that it would be possible to kill a deer with a 9mm. As I said before, it wouldn't be my first choice.
 
Typically, a human would be shot to stop them from carrying out an attack, if they die is beside the point. A deer is shot to be harvested, that they die very shortly after being shot, is required for an ethical hunter. This is why 9mm would be a very poor choice for hunting. The size and power is the reason why the 500s&w is a poor choice for any agency to use it for shooting people. You wouldn't want a deer to run 5 miles before expiring, and no police officer want to carry a 3-4 lb X frame all day.
 
Would be interesting to hunt with a 9mm... Smaller game perhaps. I was just saying 9mm handgun and deer not a good match. I'm no hunter, but if I were to spot a deer 50 yards out and try to ping it with my handgun. I'd better not miss. If I do hit it, it better be good b/c it's going to RUN RUN RUN!

Now we have to talking about good aim. If you're a sharp shooter, go for it. :) All that time to find a deer and you miss or just injure it is not going to be fun for you or the deer.
 
Judging from the skill of the average shooter I see at the range, the targets shot by 9mm pistol shooters at 20 yards are peppered with patterns that look more like they were from a shotgun with 00 buck whereas the average rifle shooters get two-inch groups at 100 yards.
 
Even if it's legal to use a 9mm pistol to go hunting, why would you do it? Hehehe... Unless you're some insane sharp shooter, it's going to be mighty hard to hit your game in the right spot.

BTW, here's a noob question from me. Is there any AR15 variant that is actually non-restricted?

TIA

Gopher hunting with 9mm sounds like a lot of fun to me, but I like the idea of using my .45 a lot more. Wouldn't shoot anything much bigger than that though with 9mm myself even if I could legally.

Check out the Robinson XCR, AR 180B, or the Swiss Arms classic green if you'd like something non-restricted that is "AR" ish... none of them really are the AR though, but the Swiss Arms rifle is superior to the AR in my humble opinion anyway.
 
Judging from the skill of the average shooter I see at the range, the targets shot by 9mm pistol shooters at 20 yards are peppered with patterns that look more like they were from a shotgun with 00 buck whereas the average rifle shooters get two-inch groups at 100 yards.

Funny that you said that. I mine as well chime in from what I saw in Cali. I was at the range with my cousin around 5x. We were there the longest. Saw people leaving and going. Max was 25 yards. Whoever tried shooting that far only stayed there no more than 10 mins!

I was terrible. Took 1hr lesson with instructor and he taught my cousin and I some important things. He shot tons over the years and was pretty good but long story short. It still took me a few thousand rounds to figure out what the instructor was talking about. On my last day before coming back home, I was shooting in 2" groups @ 8-10 yards (first few hundred rounds of shooting in my life, I was missing the big piece of paper). I was so happy that I finally saw the light. I tried 25 yards but was only able to hit paper.

My cousin's skills increased exponentially too. He was doing good at 10yrads before all this. He started suddenly shooting so good, he was hitting 6" circle @ 25 yards. I was getting a good laugh since I'm doing 8-10 yards and so were everyone else. He's all the way back there alone and was actually hitting something. Month later, he told me he's bored of the indoor range b/c he maxed out. Hitting bulls eye. LOL!

So he went to an outdoor range to try out 50, 100 yards. He was hitting paper and managed to get some within 6" circle at 50 yards... Forgot what he said about 100 yards. He felt embarrassed though. Everyone were shooting rifles, some at 50 yards while he's trying to do 50 and 100yards. LOL

He's using P226, P229 and Glock 19. I think P229 is considered restricted here, but other two are prohibs (due to barrel length).
 
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