Hunting with outfitter
- Thread starter rollingrock
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I think I agree that If I was hunting something unfamilliar and in a unfamilliar location I would like to have a guide (or local) to help. Where the line gets messy is with those "canned" hunts where all you do is show up and all the work is done.
IMHO it is much more gratifying when I do the scouting and setup myself and end up bagging a prize....when they out wit me, I'm that much more determined to figure out how to change my setup and presentation. Basically its part of the experience of understanding and respecting your prey.
A my cottage there is a bear hunting outfit where guys come in from the US and Europe to shoot a bear...Buddy supplies everything and drops them off in the morning and picks them up at night. If buddy can make a living at it good for him but I gotta tell you having some triggerhappy Bob in a bear stand overlooking the road with a high powered rifle gives me the creeps...
The funny part is when they get one...its like WWIII I have heard them take up to 20 shots to finish the poor thing off. To me this is not hunting.
I guess Im saying it takes all types, I grew up arround the bush so I prefer trying to go 1 one 1 with the animal but I guess if you grew up in the city and never experienced the bush a canned hunt might be really exciting and as far as you want to go as to roughing it
IMHO it is much more gratifying when I do the scouting and setup myself and end up bagging a prize....when they out wit me, I'm that much more determined to figure out how to change my setup and presentation. Basically its part of the experience of understanding and respecting your prey.
A my cottage there is a bear hunting outfit where guys come in from the US and Europe to shoot a bear...Buddy supplies everything and drops them off in the morning and picks them up at night. If buddy can make a living at it good for him but I gotta tell you having some triggerhappy Bob in a bear stand overlooking the road with a high powered rifle gives me the creeps...
The funny part is when they get one...its like WWIII I have heard them take up to 20 shots to finish the poor thing off. To me this is not hunting.
I guess Im saying it takes all types, I grew up arround the bush so I prefer trying to go 1 one 1 with the animal but I guess if you grew up in the city and never experienced the bush a canned hunt might be really exciting and as far as you want to go as to roughing it
beretta boy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Orillia, Ontario
Glad to hear from a Guide ... well said Randy.
Being an Ontario "flatlander", you can bet your *** I want the best guide I can get ( and that's one that comes with good references ) if I'm about to
say, sit a horse and head up into the big rocks for say a sheep or elk. Never done it before, so what the hell do I know. And I think it should be mandatory for out of Province hunters.
I've hunted both ways, with a Guide ( primarily away from my home Province) and without. I've enjoyed hunting & fishing with some very good guides out in BC, in the prairie provinces, the Maritimes and more than a few in Cuba (where you can't hunt without one - and you'd be dumb to try unless your Spanish is fluent ! ). A couple I'm proud to say have become very good friends, and a few more likely would be with a return trip or two - and I can't recall ever having a bad one !
If they're truly "professional" guides, they're well worth the cost - their livelihood depends on it !
Being an Ontario "flatlander", you can bet your *** I want the best guide I can get ( and that's one that comes with good references ) if I'm about to
say, sit a horse and head up into the big rocks for say a sheep or elk. Never done it before, so what the hell do I know. And I think it should be mandatory for out of Province hunters.
I've hunted both ways, with a Guide ( primarily away from my home Province) and without. I've enjoyed hunting & fishing with some very good guides out in BC, in the prairie provinces, the Maritimes and more than a few in Cuba (where you can't hunt without one - and you'd be dumb to try unless your Spanish is fluent ! ). A couple I'm proud to say have become very good friends, and a few more likely would be with a return trip or two - and I can't recall ever having a bad one !
If they're truly "professional" guides, they're well worth the cost - their livelihood depends on it !
beretta boy said:
Why, what is your logic?
I really like the Hunter Host program in Alberta. My brother can visit from NS, I can take him out with me. I can't make $$ doing it, and there is a limit as to how may I can host a year, but I think it is a great program.
Hunting is costly enough as it is, doesn't need to become elitist.
beretta boy
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Orillia, Ontario
I agree, it shouldn't become or be elitist.
Your his Guide ... no one said "licensed", and if he's your brother,
why would he pay you anyway ? He's from "out of Province" assumedly, and your the one with local knowledge... but hey,
why not just turn him loose up in Turner Valley, say, and tell him to just head west and have a good time - as you say, he really doesn't need a guide ???? The "Hunter Host Program" is great ... that way it doesn't become the "Hunter Lost" program !! There's a lot of remote places one can get into, but it's not neccessarily a good idea to be there by yourself.
If you're from "away", a local guide with a good knowledge of the area will be of big help. Hunting with a local guide, or for that matter a Professional Guide/Outfitter doesn't make you any less of a hunter, as was the question was first posed.
Your his Guide ... no one said "licensed", and if he's your brother,
why would he pay you anyway ? He's from "out of Province" assumedly, and your the one with local knowledge... but hey,
why not just turn him loose up in Turner Valley, say, and tell him to just head west and have a good time - as you say, he really doesn't need a guide ???? The "Hunter Host Program" is great ... that way it doesn't become the "Hunter Lost" program !! There's a lot of remote places one can get into, but it's not neccessarily a good idea to be there by yourself.
If you're from "away", a local guide with a good knowledge of the area will be of big help. Hunting with a local guide, or for that matter a Professional Guide/Outfitter doesn't make you any less of a hunter, as was the question was first posed.
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