Having taken the housing of the safety switch apart and examined it under magnification I have found enough tiny file marks for it possibly to be a one-off prototype or at least a very low production item.
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Having taken the housing of the safety switch apart and examined it under magnification I have found enough tiny file marks for it possibly to be a one-off prototype or at least a very low production item.
It’s a 62 lightweight model 1640. Weighs less than eight pounds with Leupold 4X, mounts, and magazine full with four rounds.
Actually, the mag holds five rounds, but can be tough to feed the first one occasionally when it has five, so stick with four.
As far as shutting stuff off quickly, it rarely takes more than one. In more than 40 years huntingwith the 9.3X62 I have had only one time I needed more, iirc.
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Nope. The only existing book is the one from the HVA Museum (Husqvarna Jaktvapen 1870-1977), from which the "rex" list is a transcription and just like the Crown Jewels, it contains a bunch of small errors and / or omissions. That's one reason why I started this thread, it's based on my first hand collection of info at comparing a huge bunch (litterally) of HVA products over the years.Baribal or any other member, do you know of any other source on Civilian Husqvarna models besides
https://www.rex.gl/search.html
I'm finding a couple inconsistency on variations on some models.
Mostly around the miniature models. (stocks & comments)
I'm thinking maybe a few variations were left out.
Something like this for civilian rifle would be nice...
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A big part of the confusion comes from Tradewinds marketing, while some variations aren't exactly like it's described in the museum book.
As for the Crown Jewel, some years ago, Dana Jones said he had corrected and added a lot of stuff which surfaced over the years and he was supposed to work on publishing an updated version of the book, but it did not happen yet and might never happen.
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If you look at the pics, they removed the link which blocks the 1640 bolt when the safety is "on". It might be to transform it to keep the trigger blocked but the bolt unblocked, like the later Rem 700 works. It involves quite a bit of work, though to fit this safety on. I don't know what other purpose of doing that would be, though, unless trying to fixa broken trigger safety.
As for the plastic machioning, it can be easily made with a small router or a Dremel, not a big deal.
Well, my wrong, I looked at it on my cell phone while at work and the safety / the screws on the trigger body seemd to be of a 1640 and I honestly didn't go much further than the trigger details. But it seems they went though even more hassle than I first thought to get that safety work...
My guess then is that someone wanted to lock the trigger - but seen it gets some kind of link in the mechanisme, I can't see from the details if they made a notch on the bolt body to have it locked like a 1640...
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Just won this rifle at the latest Switzer Auction. Pretty eager to get it and check it out at the range. From what I could find it was made in 1965 which makes it just a couple years older than me if my checking is right. Already have a rifle in this caliber but made from an older Mauser action by Parker Hale. Other than verifying the age could anybody here give me some information on the rifle, as is the action similar to a HVA 9000? Maybe similar to the HVA 3000 or 4000? It looks like the stock is walnut but without handling it in person, can’t really tell if the stock has a lacquer finish or just oil. I’ll probably just take it apart and clean everything and reassemble it and leave it as is if the scope functions well. Thanks ahead of time for looking.
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The Husky 5000 was the entry level Husqvarna, and a great deal at $195 in the mid-sixties. I had one in 270 that was still able to put a magazine full, five rounds, into less than an inch and a half at 100 yards with several thousand rounds down the barrel.
You won’t be disappointed,
Ted
You won’t be disappointed,
Ted
Congrats on the nice score. Love the schnabel stock. Really cool. Like Why not? said, the HVA 5000 is an entry level or "utility" Husky. It's based on the 1640 action, with the classic Mauser controlled round feed and claw extractor. It's a beautiful rifle with a smooth bolt. I also bet it shoulders beautifully! As long as the bore is halfways decent, you are in for a treat.
Tradewind's Husky H-5000 is different from both the 1600 and the 1640. It's actually the "in between" as per Ted sais, it was the entry level for HVA rifles in the Tradewinds line.
The main difference with any other models is the barrel lenght of 560mm vs 520mm for the 1600 familly and 600mm for the 1640. It is considered as being a 1640 variety and is based on that action which was proposed as an "Improved Mauser", a hybrid between the 1894 and the 1898 actions.
The 1900 is a completely different animal, it's a modern push-feed action.
Thank you for the info. So this should be interchangeable for action parts with either 1600 or 1640 if I have any issues? Hmm was thrown by the Monte Carlo style stock and checkering as entry level 1600 and 1640, as far as I knew, didn’t come with those. I guess I’ll know more once I get it apart. I have a .30-06 1640 barrel and action and bolt so I can compare them at that time. No stock or other parts though. Not that I’m gonna change this rifle if there are no issues. I have quite a bit of Mauser action parts like floor plates and such. Things I’ve collected over the years. I’ll be sure to post a few pics of this gun after cleaning it up. Cheers to all who have commented and looked.
The 1600 and 1640 barreled actions won't fit the H-5000 as per all have different barrel profiles.
As for the 1600 and 1640, a lot of European models have the schnabel stocks, but widely with straight comb and no cheeck pad, plus they are missing the forend checkering.
To get the MC and schnabel, cheeck pad and checkering on a North American model, the best guest is trying to find a 4000... lor a H-5000. There are some rarer versions of the "Tradewinds" 1651 and even 1640 bearing those features too, but they are harder to find.
BTW all North American rifles have 1" bent wire sling swivel loops and European have 3/4" loups, Most of the time milles, but in the later models, they also used the best wire type (3/4", though)
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I won a Gustaf 2000 on auction recently that was missing the magazine. after exhasutive searches and only locating ONE in Sweden, which the person refuses to ship due to regs. im wondering about attempting to fit a 1900 bottom metal / trigger guard hinged floor plate to this rifle instead of a detatch mag. does anyone know for sure if the alloy bottom metal from a 1600 is the very same as the 1900?
I never took apart a CG2000 as they are pretty "new", but I doubt a 1640 bottom metal would fit, donno neither about the 1900 compatibility, but if it works, you'd also need to make the magazine box to fit.
Did you try with importers to legally bring the magazine in Canada ? That would be my forst move.
Maybe also can you try to fit another brand of magazine... I did not try or compare the magazines of the Zoli 1900 to the CG200, and I don't currentl have a CG2000 to verify, but that may be a path toward a solution if a CG2000 magazines can't be found.
Did you try with importers to legally bring the magazine in Canada ? That would be my forst move.
Maybe also can you try to fit another brand of magazine... I did not try or compare the magazines of the Zoli 1900 to the CG200, and I don't currentl have a CG2000 to verify, but that may be a path toward a solution if a CG2000 magazines can't be found.
Here is Baribal's post from another forum:
"CG" did, indeed, use the Sauer 80 for a period of time starting somewhere around (before) 1980 and dropped them about 1984-5 from what I could get.
They were called model 3000 and 4000, (http://www.shop.tradeexcanada.com/content/carl-gustafs-3000-made-sauer-65x55)
Then "CG" introduced the "All Swedish" 2000. From what I've been able to find, the first generation (referred to as Mk I) were made outside Sweden, but the quality (or, maybe, supply) was not up to what they where looking for, they then introduced the Mk II (supposedly all made in Sweden). I was not able to find good pictures of the so-called Mk I, but I have the same brochure as yours (1992), and i've been told they were Mk II. I really suspect that there is a connection between the EBO (Greek manufacture, which they used to build their Keffefs sniping rifles) Fairfox 2000 and the CG 2000, as they started to manufacture them around 1984 (Coincidence?) and ended before 1990... The EBO have three lugs, but they are not disposed the same way (120 Deg.) as the one in the brochure; they rather use a 90 Degrees position, the bolt bottom dont have a lug - only top and sides (like an inversed "T")
Actually, this was a long time ago and it was clarified later. The EBO aka Fairfox are a different animal, they are their interpretation of the CG1900 and CG2000 and have been commercialized under other names too.
The three lugs CG2000 was introduced more or less at the same time of the CG3000/4000 (i.e. around '82) and is a different animal but did not make it to the heart of the swedes, opening the market to Zoli and EBO. The CG2000 is a rotating bolt with three front locking lugs, just like many others. Very well made, though.
BTW the CG2000 Mk II rifle was still made early 2000, the Mk I was postponed late '80's and re-introduced around '92.
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