I went into the range yesterday to shoot off a few rounds and they had a new G19 in the case that i had to have, and seems as how i didnt shoot the 90Two after getting the G17 i traded the Beretta on the G19 plus a bit, it shoots awsome and cant wait to shoot it again. Pictures and full review when i get the time.
I just got a new handgun
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You traded a pistol with the fewest parts of any semi auto produced with the longest most successful track record for one that has nearly twice as many parts, has two distinct trigger pulls, an exposed barrel, exposed trigger bar, an a$$ backwards awkward to activate safety(unless you cycle the slide in which case it activates when you don't want it to) an overly large grip, an overly large pistol, an over weight pistol which has a fixed front sight???
Yeah.... Good trade.
TDC
Yeah.... Good trade.
TDC
i don't carry my guns anywhere but to the range and will probably never have to! I don't need the reliability of the Glock, the Beretta is more than enough for me and the fact that it has been endorsed by the US Army since 1985 proves that it is a gun more than good enough for what i will ever use it
Unlike some on the forum i'm only a poor student and can't afford to have many guns so i have to sometimes sell some to get other ones!
The Glock might be more simple or have a better design, but it just didn't fit me well, couldn't shoot it for anything, the trigger is 100 times better on the Beretta (especially with a "D" spring, and the Beretta just feels better in my hand overall!
The Glock just feels plain cheap compared to the Beretta with all it's plastic parts, the grip is a bit awkward (at least for me), the trigger pull sucks, accuracy is decent at most. It really feels like at duty pistol!
Yes the Beretta is heavier because of it's metal construction and slightly bigger than the G17! Who cares, i can't feel the difference when i carry it in it's case in the trunk off my car from my house to the range!
Finally the Beretta has something the Glock will never have, it's called STYLE !
i went from this:
to this
So yeah I'm stil convinced i made a good trade!
Unlike some on the forum i'm only a poor student and can't afford to have many guns so i have to sometimes sell some to get other ones!
The Glock might be more simple or have a better design, but it just didn't fit me well, couldn't shoot it for anything, the trigger is 100 times better on the Beretta (especially with a "D" spring, and the Beretta just feels better in my hand overall!
The Glock just feels plain cheap compared to the Beretta with all it's plastic parts, the grip is a bit awkward (at least for me), the trigger pull sucks, accuracy is decent at most. It really feels like at duty pistol!
Yes the Beretta is heavier because of it's metal construction and slightly bigger than the G17! Who cares, i can't feel the difference when i carry it in it's case in the trunk off my car from my house to the range!
Finally the Beretta has something the Glock will never have, it's called STYLE !
i went from this:
to this
So yeah I'm stil convinced i made a good trade!
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My advise next time, keep the Berreta and buy the Glock one for each hand...lol
You'll never trade your Glock!
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You'll never trade your Glock!
Welcome to the Glock family.
i don't carry my guns anywhere but to the range and will probably never have to! I don't need the reliability of the Glock, the Beretta is more than enough for me and the fact that it has been endorsed by the US Army since 1985 proves that it is a gun more than good enough for what i will ever use it
Unlike some on the forum i'm only a poor student and can't afford to have many guns so i have to sometimes sell some to get other ones!
The Glock might be more simple or have a better design, but it just didn't fit me well, couldn't shoot it for anything, the trigger is 100 times better on the Beretta (especially with a "D" spring, and the Beretta just feels better in my hand overall!
The Glock just feels plain cheap compared to the Beretta with all it's plastic parts, the grip is a bit awkward (at least for me), the trigger pull sucks, accuracy is decent at most. It really feels like at duty pistol!
Yes the Beretta is heavier because of it's metal construction and slightly bigger than the G17! Who cares, i can't feel the difference when i carry it in it's case in the trunk off my car from my house to the range!
Finally the Beretta has something the Glock will never have, it's called STYLE
So yeah I'm stil convinced i made a good trade!
No one said you needed to have more than one gun. The Beretta costs more than a Glock so I still don't understand your logic?
I guess a reliable pistol isn't required at the range either as you've indicated.
The grip fits everyone, its the shooter that has issues. On a side note, the grip of the Beretta is significantly larger than that of the Glock so your argument is null and void.
Accuracy is a function of the shooter, not the gear. I (as well as many others) have no issues handing a$$ with a stock Glock. Its called training and practice.
The trigger pull is yet another excuse used by the inexperienced to trash talk Glocks.
Style? Oh right, you're a member of the poser crowd. No problem with that, just so we're clear your pistol is a toy. Have fun with it.
TDC
the logic is: i can afford to either have 700$ handgun or a 900$ handgun, not both at the same time, when i got my beretta i had to sell something and the glock was the easiest one to let go
the 92fs is more than enough reliable for the use i make of it. It's also reliable enough that the US army just ordered 500000 more units
Thats not true, i might have bigger hands than you so the beretta grips fit me better, and if you use the search a bit you will see that the glock's angle on the grips is awkward for alot of people
there is a reason why alot of new guns come with adjustable grips, not everyone is built the same
At least i can compare, i had both at the same time at the range so i know what i'm saying, you can't compare a 92fs with a "D" spring and and a Glock
Now because i like my stuff to look nice means i'm a poser?
So i guess, you must be the kind of guy who would prefer to have a Toyota Camry (you can't find more reliable than that) than an Italian sports car!
Seriously whats the point if the speed limits are under 100km/h in Canada, a car is just useful to go from point A to point B
Yes were are clear that my pistol is a toy, just like yours and everyone else who doesn't use one for work ! I consider a survival/hunting/defence rifle or shotgun a tool not a handgun.
Unfortunatly the laws in Canada have made handguns to be expensive toys for 99% of the users in Canada except LEO, and don't talk to me about sport or target shooters, because unless you make a living out of it, no matter how good you are it's still a hobby !
Anyways man i saw on alot of your posts that you seem to be a really big Glock fan, this is a discussion board so i was just stating my opinion like everyone else in this thread, you don't need to get all defensive and start calling out names!
Don't get me wrong Glocks are great guns and if i had to carry daily i would probably choose it over a 92FS (not a G17 though, something smaller). I would also train alot more than i do now to make sure i'm efficient with it in case i need it in a situation of defence!
But in our current situation in Canada i much prefer the Beretta than the Glock
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There are plenty of folks who run Glocks with very large hands and very small(see the video of 11 year old Mackenzie doing business with a G19 and factory ammo). Grip size and angle are excuses for the ill trained or ignorant. You use your pistol for pleasure shooting so the "comfort" of the pistol is an issue. The fact that you use your pistol for fun also tells me you aren't serious about mastering the fundamentals of shooting, you're a poser. This is further reinforced with your statement regarding looks or "style" and your own statement "but then again i would train alot more than i do now to make sure i'm efficient with it in case i need it in a situation of defence!"
There's nothing wrong with being a poser or shooting strictly for fun. There is concern when those who do(pose) talk sh*t about why their "fun" gun is better than another and base their entire position on stationary slow fire shooting at a stationary target in a well lit comfortable environment. Coupled with their lack of experience(low round count) absent training and infrequent range sessions, their opinions are nothing more than personal preference.
Handguns like rifles and shotguns are all tools. They "should" serve a purpose and/or solve a problem. The handgun has a relatively small role as far as firearms are concerned. The rifle and shotgun are much better suited for many of the roles a handgun can play and then some. The right tool for the right job. This of course doesn't factor in when discussing "fun" guns.
The mention of the US adopting the Beretta is nothing but anecdotal justification for your purchase. With some research the decision to select the Beretta wasn't without its under handed dealings. The SIG 226 clearly won the trials of the early 80's but was passed up for the Beretta partially due to Beretta's willingness to setup shop stateside. The best candidate isn't always the contract winner, especially when government is involved.
On a side note, I would take the Camry over any sports car. I prefer my gear to be practical and reliable. Hot cars are the epitome of poser material. 99% of those who own one have no clue how to drive it. Most sports cars are next to useless for anything but cruising or "looking cool". If you own a sports car and race at the track(for fun or not) or have taken some sort of professional training, my comments don't apply. For the guy who buys his Corvette/Mustang/Charger or any of the exotic sports cars only to park it in the driveway or run to the store for milk. You're a poser..
TDC
ETA: As for being a Glock fan, read my signature line...
There's nothing wrong with being a poser or shooting strictly for fun. There is concern when those who do(pose) talk sh*t about why their "fun" gun is better than another and base their entire position on stationary slow fire shooting at a stationary target in a well lit comfortable environment. Coupled with their lack of experience(low round count) absent training and infrequent range sessions, their opinions are nothing more than personal preference.
Handguns like rifles and shotguns are all tools. They "should" serve a purpose and/or solve a problem. The handgun has a relatively small role as far as firearms are concerned. The rifle and shotgun are much better suited for many of the roles a handgun can play and then some. The right tool for the right job. This of course doesn't factor in when discussing "fun" guns.
The mention of the US adopting the Beretta is nothing but anecdotal justification for your purchase. With some research the decision to select the Beretta wasn't without its under handed dealings. The SIG 226 clearly won the trials of the early 80's but was passed up for the Beretta partially due to Beretta's willingness to setup shop stateside. The best candidate isn't always the contract winner, especially when government is involved.
On a side note, I would take the Camry over any sports car. I prefer my gear to be practical and reliable. Hot cars are the epitome of poser material. 99% of those who own one have no clue how to drive it. Most sports cars are next to useless for anything but cruising or "looking cool". If you own a sports car and race at the track(for fun or not) or have taken some sort of professional training, my comments don't apply. For the guy who buys his Corvette/Mustang/Charger or any of the exotic sports cars only to park it in the driveway or run to the store for milk. You're a poser..
TDC
ETA: As for being a Glock fan, read my signature line...
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Ahh.. you traded the Glock for the Beretta... I rescind my previous comment.. horrible trade...
"It's also reliable enough that the US army just ordered 500000 more units" ....
Actually it was
"Beretta U.S.A. Corp. announced today the receipt of purchase orders from the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy for a total of 10,576 M9 pistols (5,969 for the Army, 4,607 for the Navy)." as of Sept 10, 2008......
As far as the guns go, all personal preference. If you like it, you like it, but I wouldn't be generalizing all the pistols with comments like that... Ill say it, I think Beretta's are ugly as sin and handle like a pile of dog crap on a sunny day.. but that's just me.
I know guys that can out shoot me with them so meh.... all about personal preference. Id rather have an M&P over both of those options, because it fits my hand better and I shoot it better...
"It's also reliable enough that the US army just ordered 500000 more units" ....
Actually it was
"Beretta U.S.A. Corp. announced today the receipt of purchase orders from the U.S. Army and U.S. Navy for a total of 10,576 M9 pistols (5,969 for the Army, 4,607 for the Navy)." as of Sept 10, 2008......
As far as the guns go, all personal preference. If you like it, you like it, but I wouldn't be generalizing all the pistols with comments like that... Ill say it, I think Beretta's are ugly as sin and handle like a pile of dog crap on a sunny day.. but that's just me.
I know guys that can out shoot me with them so meh.... all about personal preference. Id rather have an M&P over both of those options, because it fits my hand better and I shoot it better...
I used to run Beretta 92 series back in the 1980's when they, the S&W 59 series and BHP's were pretty much 'it' for double stack 9mm's. Back when we could have proper cap mags.... Switched over to the BHP MkIII for a double stack 9mm in the early 90's, though. So on the original thread post I say good trade, Beretta for the Glock. On that I prefer the G22 in .40 over the 9mm's but the G19 9mm is awesome, too.
NAA.
Switched over to the BHP MkIII for a double stack 9mm in the early 90's, though. So on the original thread post I say good trade, Beretta for the Glock. On that I prefer the G22 in .40 over the 9mm's but the G19 9mm is awesome, too.
NAA.
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