I love 1911's but i found this very interesting.

By this logic we should all ditch the ar15 design and switch to AKs because they have alot less stoppages than the AR design does.
 
redryder said:
I am only saying that with the appropriate amount of tweaking, a 1911 can be made to shoot more accurately than a Glock with an equal amount of tweaking. Your view may vary. When was your last real handgun fight? Never right? Handguns in Canada are toys made for enthusiasts that enjoy using them.
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I was referring to gun fights in the states and involving LE's.
 
1911s vs plastic 'toaster' grade guns

My 1911s are a Series '70 Gold Cup tricked out with several bells & whistles and a box stock Remington 1911 R1.
The Gold Cup (wearing a Clark Pin Gun barrel then) shot me into 'A' class before .38 Stupers with optical sights took over. It's back in deluxe 'street carry' mode (if I could) and I can't remember the last malfunction it suffered.

The R1 works every time with non-Remington mags which occasionally fail to lock back after the last round. OK with other mags. Could use a trigger job, but has all the bells & whistles necessary for a duty gun.

Prior to shooting into 'A' with the .45 ACP, I did so with a brace of Browning 9mms. It was a gun I was familiar with from Regular Army service. They needed more work and enhancement than the Gold Cup. Only gun that ever broke on me; one of the barrel ramps failing after many thousands of rounds.

Calibre-wise - a 9mm over a .45 ACP? It is to laugh! Ask yourself which you'd rather NOT get hit with ....

Not that I expect to be in Middle Eastern temps or arctic conditions any time soon, but I've read that the plastic 'toaster guns' don't like extremes of temp.
The John Browning designs have served in all climatic zones with distinction for decades.
 
I've taken a course with James in the past and own both a g19 and an STI.

Yes he likes his glocks, but his angle is the CCW must work 100% of the time, or your family is in trouble kind of angle... if I needed to use a gun after its been beaten up a little in a fight or whatever I think I would grab the glock over my 1911. To each their own, just enjoy whatever you prefer to shoot and have fun..
 
Its about time someone posted a video about this. A lot of 1911 owners think you are attacking the military history if you put down a 1911 due to its history in war. That isnt a fact at all. Glocks just work, and i have owned several, never a FTF, FTE or any other malfunction weather it was gen 3 or 4.

This reminds me i need another Glock.
 
the eternal conflict between the 1911 and the glock

a 1911 is better suited for someone that is more familiar with how the gun works and it's little quirks. it's more high maintenance than a glock.

I feel safer with a cocked and locked 1911 than a glock that anyone can pick up and pull the trigger. at least if someone has no experience with guns they have to figure how to take the safety off first before doing something stupid

I agree with him that there's definately a lot of bad 1911's being made today, mostly because almost every gun company makes a copy of the 1911. a lot of them have strayed away from the original design of John Moses Browning so much that of course there's going to be malfunctions. it's inevietable

add to the fact that there's so many after market parts and magazines made by so many different companies....all claiming to be new and improved or the latest fad, and the kitchen table gunsmiths that don't understand how to fit these parts or use a dremel to do it.

a 1911 is a hand fitted gun. the parts don't just drop in like a glock. it has high tollerances. a glock goes together without any hand fitting

it's like comparing a Rolex with a Timex, a Dupont with a Bic lighter, a Mont Blanc with a papermate....... the former are more expensive and need more maitenance.....the latter are plastic and made to be affordable and disposable. they all do the same thing. high maintenace or low maintenance

I'm not a glock hater, I think they're great. they're easy to shoot, low maintenance, and perfect to someone that doesn't want to spend a lot of time fussing over the gun

there's too many different companies making the 1911 now, and more bad ones than good ones.

there's only one company that makes glock. what if every gun manufacturer started making glocks too? maybe changing or trying to improve thier original design? I think you'd see some pretty unreliable glocks too if every gun company made thier own version of the glock. imagine the Norinco glock, the Smith and Wesson glock with a special key to dissable the gun, the Colt glock, the Ruger glock made of cast parts, the Wilson Combat glock

the 1911 was made to feed 230 grain hardball ammo with a controlled feed from tapered feed lips. don't expect it to feed flatnose profile bullets or hollowpoints and then blame the gun if it doesn't

if the 1911 is such a ####ty gun why does every gun company have thier own version of it? especially for a 100 year old design
 
Im a sports shooter and theres a gunsmith working at my club.
Malfunctions, and extractors breaking arn't really a concern for me.

I just love the single stack grip and the straight bar single action trigger to switch over to another pistol.... That being said, i own beretta, sig, CZ, glocks...

That being said... if sh!t does hit the fan and i need to grab something for protection.. id go for my glock..
 
grandmasterP said:
a 1911 is better suited for someone that is more familiar with how the gun works and it's little quirks. it's more high maintenance than a glock.

I feel safer with a cocked and locked 1911 than a glock that anyone can pick up and pull the trigger. at least if someone has no experience with guns they have to figure how to take the safety off first before doing something stupid

I agree with him that there's definately a lot of bad 1911's being made today, mostly because almost every gun company makes a copy of the 1911. a lot of them have strayed away from the original design of John Moses Browning so much that of course there's going to be malfunctions. it's inevietable

add to the fact that there's so many after market parts and magazines made by so many different companies....all claiming to be new and improved or the latest fad, and the kitchen table gunsmiths that don't understand how to fit these parts or use a dremel to do it.

a 1911 is a hand fitted gun. the parts don't just drop in like a glock. it has high tollerances. a glock goes together without any hand fitting

it's like comparing a Rolex with a Timex, a Dupont with a Bic lighter, a Mont Blanc with a papermate....... the former are more expensive and need more maitenance.....the latter are plastic and made to be affordable and disposable. they all do the same thing. high maintenace or low maintenance

I'm not a glock hater, I think they're great. they're easy to shoot, low maintenance, and perfect to someone that doesn't want to spend a lot of time fussing over the gun

there's too many different companies making the 1911 now, and more bad ones than good ones.

there's only one company that makes glock. what if every gun manufacturer started making glocks too? maybe changing or trying to improve thier original design? I think you'd see some pretty unreliable glocks too if every gun company made thier own version of the glock. imagine the Norinco glock, the Smith and Wesson glock with a special key to dissable the gun, the Colt glock, the Ruger glock made of cast parts, the Wilson Combat glock

the 1911 was made to feed 230 grain hardball ammo with a controlled feed from tapered feed lips. don't expect it to feed flatnose profile bullets or hollowpoints and then blame the gun if it doesn't

if the 1911 is such a s**tty gun why does every gun company have thier own version of it? especially for a 100 year old design
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Just because it sells, same reason why other companies like Beretta, S&W have went with polymer handguns due to the popularity of Glocks.
 
I recently started to collect 1911s... what is this high maintanence you guys speak of?

Is there a guide readily on hand i can read over before i do something ill regret?
 
I don't think the premise is quite 1911 vs. Glock rather than business vs. pleasure.

I shoot 1911's for pleasure, but if I needed to carry a pistol on my hip all day, every day, I would buy a lightweight, dependable, no maintenance Glock.

My 1911's know this, and we have an understanding about it. It's just business.

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domyalex said:
No offense, but obviously you don't know very much about the history of the AR or why it has such high failure rate in Vietnam if that's your only point...

You love Glocks, we get it, to each their own.
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They failed due to the environment in Vietnam, they had to be kept really clean or they would have problems, the AK has no such problems. Why some us soldiers resorted to using AK's when theirs quit working.

Enlighten me as to what im missing.

If you could buy semi automatic AK's in Canada as easily as AR's, i bet most would get an AK.
 
ddsmith said:
I don't think the premise is quite 1911 vs. Glock rather than business vs. pleasure.

I shoot 1911's for pleasure, but if I needed to carry a pistol on my hip all day, every day, I would buy a lightweight, dependable, no maintenance Glock.

My 1911's know this, and we have an understanding about it. It's just business.

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This is true.
 
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