I might loose my hunting grounds

A classic case of the NIMBY Syndrome.

While nearly everyone wants the benefits provided by oil products - everything from the food you eat to the computer mouse in your hand relies on the petrochemical industry - some people don't want to be inconvenienced by the process.
 
I just learned that the transcanada pipeline project goes right in the middle of my hunting grounds.......

I hate this............. Not only that, it will pass less than 300 yards from my house......

For my 2 little girls, I'll have to do anything I can (legally of course) to prevent this from happening...
I'm confused, your location says Montreal.
 
I'm confused, your location says Montreal.

It's not uncommon to mention to the nearest, largest city when referring to one's location. I'm guessing not too many people would be familiar with St. Isidore du Coeur de Jesus. Can I guess La Plaine?
 
Dry oil pipeline????

They pump so many chemicals to make the oil become more liquid like. It's extreamly toxic stuff too. They don't do dry stuff as it's all oil just hit it with a rifle and it will spill out for many days before they notice it's happened in the past were someone shot it and people have even blown up parts of the pipeline in the north because they weren't happy it went in. Made a heck of a mess too. The pipe line has to go in some were but with building it in an earthquake zone it's a huge disaster waiting to happen. Auto shut off crap never works trusting companys to do the right thing never works they're as cheap as they can be and screw safety if something happens play stupid and go opps sorry. Just like the trains in Quebec you wouldn't see that kind of lack of safety with track when the Government was running it. It was safety is number 1 which is why it's more expensive for the Government to run were companys want to just make money and they cut corners when ever they can. Many pipelines in the past have had problems with companys not knowing that it was spilling and some that did know but did nothing about it because they would lost more money if they turned it off to fix it so they let it leak out till people came out and said hey company your pipe is leaking all over the place it was leaking for 3 weeks before they stopped the line.

Never trust an oil company.... ever... There is a reason that saying is around and still is...


Legally the only thing you might be able to do is sue for lost value in the property or move... They might even put in a fence and put no trespassing signs up it happens allot with things like this. Since they own the land they go to bad keep off.

The pipeline in question will be buried about 10 ft underground.
 
A classic case of the NIMBY Syndrome.

While nearly everyone wants the benefits provided by oil products - everything from the food you eat to the computer mouse in your hand relies on the petrochemical industry - some people don't want to be inconvenienced by the process.

Hey, I've got 3 -40 " Trans Canada lines within a couple of hundred yards of my house.:D They ever blow, you'll read about it in the paper. Come to think of it, If I took a mind to it, I could make you eastern Bastards freeze in the dark all by myself. :)The main line to Ontario and beyond. Some disruption during construction, but the only way you know where they are is that snow tends to melt there and crops grow greener. Then there's the nice check they send me every November. ;) QUIT #####ING.

Grizz
 
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How do I go about getting a pipeline? I live 1 km. from town and the road I am on is surrounded by natural gas lines. BUT! Do you think I can get the gas company to run a line this way to me and my neighbours? NO WAY!
 
Can I guess La Plaine?
No but you are close.

Boomer74: uninformed maybe, but uneducated WTF are you talking about !

Grizzly: No question of cheques every year. we will be expropriated and that's it

Now just because I use gas in my car and have a few plastic gizmos at home I cannot be upset because an oil company wants to put its pipeline on our land and by the process will destroy something we worked for for decades. Come on guys.

By the way, my hunting grounds are about 600 yards away from my back porch. The pipe is supposed to come out of the woods where I hunt, come towards my house and will pass less than 300 yards away. it will pas less that 50 yards from by brother in law's house.
 
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No but you are close.

Boomer74: uninformed maybe, but uneducated WTF are you talking about !

Grizzly: No question of cheques every year. we will be expropriated and that's it

Now just because I use gas in my car and have a few plastic gizmos at home I cannot be upset because an oil company wants to put its pipeline on our land and by the process will destroy something we worked for for decades. Come on guys.

By the way, my hunting grounds are about 600 yards away from my back porch. The pipe is supposed to come out of the woods where I hunt, come towards my house and will pass less than 300 yards away. it will pas less that 50 yards from by brother in law's house.

Deer love pipeline cuts, so do bears in the Spring, especially if they run through a forest. ;) As for the expropriation and locations, I'm betting your laws are way behind ours. People may say don't trust an oil company, but ours get enough public pressure to fairly compensate the land owner and get along with him. If they showed up here tomorrow, they'd pay for rights to survey, land acquisition, damages both to existing crop and I think 3 future years because it will be diminished. Then there's annual rental, plus I might get benefits, like building the temporary fence along the right of way to keep livestock out. Oil field rates of course. :)

Grizz
 
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the worst thing is the ATV crowd. Its hard to keep them off the line. Hunting will be likely as good or better in few years.
I do have sympathy for you considering the small bush involved, however the line has to go somewhere. Canada as a whole benefits and you should be compensated if you own the property.
 
What makes me mad is that they decided to go into the woods wich are scarse around here. There are PLENTY of fields though. I rather want to see the pipe in my fileds than see it decimate our 60 year old sugar shack go into ruins......
 
What makes me mad is that they decided to go into the woods wich are scarse around here. There are PLENTY of fields though. I rather want to see the pipe in my fileds than see it decimate our 60 year old sugar shack go into ruins......

What, you think they aimed it to go through woods instead of fields? I doubt that.

Some dude in a comfy chair, sitting at a mapping workstation, drew the shortest lines they could get without having to plow under any cemeteries or day-cares.

Like the others, I am of the get over it vote.
The crews will come, do their work and be gone in as short a time as they can manage.

Do you own the land? If so, will you lose income? If the latter is no, and especially if the former is no, then you have nothing to go on but the standard whinge that it should happen to someone else.

Cheers
Trev
 
Personally, I say put the pipeline in asap. It'll pay for the new port mann bridge in a year. People in the lower mainland that are so against it don't even realize how many pipelines are running right underneath their feet as they speak. They also fail to realize just how many petroleum based products they use on a daily basis...
 
What ticks me off is that the Northern Gateway route was chosen to run on Native lands...to appease natives and give them money and to avoid federal environmental restrictions...and because of this the end of the route is Kitimat. Kitimat is at the end of a long inlet that has hazardous weather and lots of rocks to hit. If they went with a better route that ended up in Prince Rupert (where people need the work I might add) there would be a lot less risk of an environmental disaster which would help convince the people in BC that we need the pipeline. Politics suck!!!
 
What ticks me off is that the Northern Gateway route was chosen to run on Native lands...to appease natives and give them money and to avoid federal environmental restrictions...and because of this the end of the route is Kitimat. Kitimat is at the end of a long inlet that has hazardous weather and lots of rocks to hit. If they went with a better route that ended up in Prince Rupert (where people need the work I might add) there would be a lot less risk of an environmental disaster which would help convince the people in BC that we need the pipeline. Politics suck!!!

Any place in BC that isn't Native land ? Last I heard they were claiming a total of about 250. % of it. ;)

Grizz
 
It's a problem. They just gave away over 800 acres here in Nanaimo to the local band...of course there is ZERO public input. Not sure why our politicians are so quick to sell the citizens of Canada out.

You're forgetting about the backlash they'll encounter next generation. They'll lose all ther reserves and be making reparations on welfare receipts in thirty years, without mercy.
 
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