I never lost an animal until....

Isnt there an issue if the landowner refuses permission for you to recover the animal? He cant keep the animal at this point legally can he? Isnt it he can deny you recovering it but must notify MNR to collect it unless he himself has a tag?

Yes, the landowner can keep it if he wants. He likely has to notify the MNR, similar to a road kill.

He CANNOT place his tag (if he has one) on such an animal.

Landowner has no responsibility to allow you to enter or recover the animal himself.
 
Recovering an animal does not trump trespassing laws. You cannot legally enter private property to recover an animal without permission.

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Correct, I hunt with a CO, and they have no special powers allowing them to enter private property to search for wounded game. Usually when people see a CO, they allow them in because they know they are not in there hunting.

They can only do so if they believe the person has commited poaching etc.
 
Don't know if it has already been said but knowingly allowing an animal to be wasted is an offense. If a landowner refuses access to a hunter to recover an animal or makes no attempt to recover it himself then I believe that would be considered an offence.

If you show up at a landowners door and tell him a wounded animal entered the property and he refuses to allow you to retrieve it then makes no attempt to find the animal you could phone the CO. I know personally of one case where this happened. The CO showed up and told the landowner to go find the animal, allow the CO with the hunter to find it or face a ticket. The animal was recovered soon after.

BTW this is in Sask.
 
I'am thinking better bullets would solve most of the tracking and recovery problems you guys are reporting. BANG FLOP! Not bang, bang, bang then track and loose.
 
I'am thinking better bullets would solve most of the tracking and recovery problems you guys are reporting. BANG FLOP! Not bang, bang, bang then track and loose.


If only it was that simple. Anyone who has been around in this sport for any length of time will witness to a well hit animal with a good bullet travelling a long distance. If it is in brushy country an animal can be lost even if you are the worlds greatest shot with the worlds greatest bullets.

Be in on enough kills and you will see it happen to yourself or some one else.
 
We've lost deer before. It sucks!

Buddy had a doe bang flop into a deep puddle in the bush one year. We searched for hours for that deer and found nothing but a drop of blood and some hair where she was standing. I found the deer 2 weeks later, dragged out of the puddle by the coyotes. She didn't go 5 yards. We grid searched (on hands and knees at times)for a couple of hours and couldn't find any sign of her.

Another time, a buddy shot a big buck and only one drop of blood was found. We grid searched after letting a couple hours go by and found him in the swamp dead (heart shot) 200 yards away. He only left 1 drop of blood that we could find.

All you can do is do your best to take high percentage shots within your accuracy range, and if you think it was a less than great hit wait some time before pursuing.
 
I'am thinking better bullets would solve most of the tracking and recovery problems you guys are reporting. BANG FLOP! Not bang, bang, bang then track and loose.

If you think it is that simple, you haven't shot many animals. Good bullets are essential, but stuff happens. Sooner or later you will find that nothing, absolutely nothing, will make for 100% bang flops.
 
Don't know if it has already been said but knowingly allowing an animal to be wasted is an offense. If a landowner refuses access to a hunter to recover an animal or makes no attempt to recover it himself then I believe that would be considered an offence.

If you show up at a landowners door and tell him a wounded animal entered the property and he refuses to allow you to retrieve it then makes no attempt to find the animal you could phone the CO. I know personally of one case where this happened. The CO showed up and told the landowner to go find the animal, allow the CO with the hunter to find it or face a ticket. The animal was recovered soon after.

BTW this is in Sask.

Not in Ontario.

Landowner has no responsibility to allow entry or recover the animal himself.
 
Not completely so.... you have the right to recover your animal.... landowner has the right to refus eyou entry... but once you call the CO they have to let you on....

With all due respect, based on this post and your turkey hunt thread, you may want to spend a bit of time reading the hunting regs.;)
 
Methinks this is another case where a dog on leash and harness could be helpful.

I have two labs that love to find #### -- it was my next level of commitment despite being illegal in AB. Losing a moose is a greater sin than using a dog to find a dead one IMO. If caught I'd pay the fine and let the animal be donated to the needy -- ultimately better than raven fodder.
 
You are completely wrong.

Recovering an animal does not trump trespassing laws.

You need permission to enter private property to recover an animal.

That's not the way they explained it at my course, If a wounded animal wanders into someone elses property, you have an obligation to track it and make sure it is put down. If they have an issue with that, call the MNR, the CO or the police, you'll find out real quick who's right.Skokie.
 
That's not the way they explained it at my course, If a wounded animal wanders into someone elses property, you have an obligation to track it and make sure it is put down. If they have an issue with that, call the MNR, the CO or the police, you'll find out real quick who's right.Skokie.

I already know I am right. And I will wager whatever you want.;)
 
I have two labs that love to find s**t -- it was my next level of commitment despite being illegal in AB. Losing a moose is a greater sin than using a dog to find a dead one IMO. If caught I'd pay the fine and let the animal be donated to the needy -- ultimately better than raven fodder.


Point well made. it should be legal every where to allow a dog to assist in finding wounded or downed game. Letting them assist in the hunting is a point that can be debated but for retrieval of shot game IMHO there should be zero ethical or legal issues about it.
 
I have two labs that love to find s**t -- it was my next level of commitment despite being illegal in AB. Losing a moose is a greater sin than using a dog to find a dead one IMO. If caught I'd pay the fine and let the animal be donated to the needy -- ultimately better than raven fodder.
No doubt. Even the wildest farm dog will make tracking a "lost" animal look easy, let alone a trained working dog.
 
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